From our introduction to the "real" James Gatz, to Tom's "old-fashioned" moral statement that "women run around too much these days" to Gatsby's desire to recreate the past, chapter six may be the chapter where the entire book comes together. Evaluate The Great Gatsby at this point. What do you think of it? What has Fitzgerald created?
Emma S.
2/13/2014 02:19:55 am
I think the novel does a great job of expressing many issues through the characters. Tom exlplaining that women run around too much brings up the issue of prostitution and other trafficking jobs for woman to do. The woman then, and now, may not have the respect that they need to have for themselves. I feel as though society has shaped itself to be this way and Ftizergald is the one to bring it up. Gatsby wants to have Daisy again, his love for her never fails. It shows that your true love for someone does not truly go away. Even though he wants to recreate the past, Daisy may not want too, Nick says, "I wouldn't ask too much of her, You can't repeat the past." Nick is saying that just because you want something does not always mean you can get it; if you do get it than you cannot push it too far becasue you never know the breaking point of someone. Fitzgerald has created a novel that addresses issues that are still around today.
Ryan F 2
2/13/2014 11:52:08 am
I agree for the most part but Nick is also saying that just because something worked one way in the past doesn't mean it will work that same way in the present. Gatsby wants the same love to just return between him and Daisy but it is possible that so much has happened within those five years that it is impossible to ever get back to where they were.
Joe S
2/13/2014 04:27:48 am
Chapter six further explores the characters' situations and experiences. The chapter reveals Gatsby's past and relates it to the present. I think the book comes to focus on Gatsby's creation of a "plan" to make Daisy his once again. Gatsby's ability to make his dream happen is what makes him a powerful and grand character throughout the book. It is also seen that Gatsby has as much money as Tom, but lacks the ability so socialize, relating to why people never know who the host of the parties is. Also, Tom seems to be intimidated by Gatsby and asks Nick "Who is this Gatsby anyhow?" (Fitzgerald 107). Tom also states that he thinks that Gatsby is a bootlegger, "I didn't hear it. I imagined it. A lot of these newly rich people are just big bootleggers, you know." (Fitzgerald 107). Tom may seem to be judging Gatsby because Tom may feel above him. Later in the story it can be inferred that a confrontation between the two will occur. Also, Gatsby wants Daisy to confront Tom and tell him that she has never loved him. Gatsby is trying to get Daisy's attention by trying to do whatever he can. Gatsby also transcended early struggles to build his own empire in hopes of regaining Daisy's love. The qualities of Gatsby becoming a self-made man are present throughout the chapter. In a way, I feel that Daisy is conflicted by Gatsby's origin, as she is a women of class that didn't need to build her self. To this point Fitzgerald has created a masterpiece, from love to wealth, many aspects of the american way of living is introduced in a personal view. It may be simply that the values of the characters' slowly change and kill the American Dream. The characters triumph in a whole new different way, through materialism instead of through moral necessitates. I really like how Fitzgerald uses symbols to communicate with the reader and also keeps the reader imagining.
Joe S Period 1
2/13/2014 04:28:54 am
Stephanie B; period 5
2/18/2014 09:48:01 am
I completely agree with the fact that Gatsby's hard work to accomplish his goals makes him a strong character in the novel. Not many of the characters in the story are capable of the hard work that Gatsby does, or have the motivation to work for what they want. Gatsby's dedication to make himself wealthy in order to impress Daisy portrays his love for her. And I agree that the characters in this story triumph over one another based on materialism and wealth instead of morality and who they are as people. When I read this chapter, I felt that Tom may not only feel superior to Gatsby, but he could also feel a bit intimidated by him as well. While Gatsby may not have as many personal connections as Tom does, Gatsby does not appear to be particularly shy around strangers, and does throw these lavish parties. Later in the novel, it is learned Tom has never thrown a lavish party like Gatsby does, therefore, it is not surprising Gatsby receives more attention than Tom does. It is because of this that I feel that Tom may feel a bit threatened by Gatsby, so Tom is sizing him up in order to make himself feel better. In addition, I believe Tom feels there could be a potential connection between Gatsby and Daisy, which is also causing him distress. At the party, Gatsby and Daisy danced together in public, so there is a good chance Tom might've seen it. Nick also mentions that Tom came with Daisy to the party because he was "perturbed at [her] running around alone" (104). Tom appears to be quite insecure about Daisy interacting with other people, therefore, I feel that while Tom may not know about the connection between Gatsby and Daisy yet, he senses that Gatsby could easily one-up him in Daisy's eyes, so he came to the party to watch her and make sure that she did not stray away from him and form a relationship with someone else, especially Gatsby.
Emylee F. Period 5
2/13/2014 05:38:07 am
In this chapter, most of the mysteries about Gatsby are uncovered. The readers finally know where all his money truly came from and can see just how much Gatsby put in to make him the person he is today. "And it was from Cody that he inherited money--a legacy of twenty-five thousand dollars. He didn't get it...He was left his singularly appropriate education..." (100-101) As you can see, he had to work to become the person he is. Furthermore, when everyone was at the party, Tom is addressed by Daisy for always being gone and known for cheating, such as when she said he could take her golden pencil to get addresses. Fitzgerald has created a puzzle of connecting stories, one way or another, and has thrown it at the readers. However, like all puzzles, through time and more understanding, the puzzle comes together. At this point though, there are still pieces that haven't found their home and the readers have yet to know what the end of the puzzle with reveal.
Emma S. 2
2/13/2014 11:29:34 pm
I completely agree with you Emylee. Gatsby has had to work his butt off in order to get where he has gone. To me, he just had a little help in the beginning and he got on his own two feet afterwards. I think Fitzgerald has almost done this on person in order to make us come up with our own opinions of the characters.
Mary K. Period 4th.
2/16/2014 01:28:34 pm
I agree with both Emma and Emylee. The puzzle is slowly but surely coming together, although i'm not really satisfied with it. Even though the puzzle is coming together, we still can't figure the picture of the puzzle out due to some very few details Fitzgerald gives us throughout the book so far. I don't know. It's still too hazy for me. Fitzgerald does do a great job making the readers come up with our own opinions, but sometimes, it feels like our mind has no direction. We just start wondering off about, "maybe this" or "maybe that" too much. He gives us no direction to go to, at times of course.
Angel. A 5
2/13/2014 05:58:18 am
This chapter focused a lot around Gatsby and the mystery of his past. On quote that describes Gatsby's rise is, " The truth was that Jay Gatsby, of West Egg, Long Island, sprang from his Platonic conception of himself. He was a son of God—a phrase which, if it means anything, means just that—and he must be about His Father’s business, the service of a vast, vulgar, and meretricious beauty. So he invented just the sort of Jay Gatsby that a seventeen year old boy would be likely to invent, and to this conception he was faithful to the end." Gatsby created a dream, a dream in which he chased and ultimately succeeded in achieving. We do know this much, however, Fitzgerald created a series of mysteries that have yet to be solved. This is mostly due to the story being told by Nick, we have no idea what happens when Nick isn't there. We either have to infer, or hopefully wait for an answer in later chapters.
Hailey A. 2
2/14/2014 02:14:00 am
I love the quote you used in this, it really explains the way Gatsby has created a dream life for himself. He has all the money that he needs to live without worries and can run around and throw shirts around like its no big deal. Your are so right, what does happen when Nick isnt around? Does he do bad things? did he actually kill that guy???
Justin C Period 2
2/17/2014 12:55:57 pm
I agree with the idea you have of Gatsby creating his own dream life for the story he creates for himself. Maybe think about looking at Gatsby's life through Nick's eyes. Does Nick fully believe the stories and Gastby? Or maybe not so much as believe in the stories, as compared to does Nick want to believe in everything he has heard about Gatsby.
Riley S.P2
2/13/2014 06:01:05 am
The novel is by far my favorite read we have done in english class so far. The story is fascinating, the characters diverse, the symbols abundant, and the general flow of the Fitzgerald's words is beyond perfect. I feel the reveal of James Gatz is the second most important reveal of the novel. It explains so much, why Daisy did't marry him, why he feels the need to prove himself to the public, his awkwardness, and his inability to tell others about his past. But it raises a huge question that we as readers haven't found out, how did he get so much money so quickly after the war? The comment Tom makes to Daisy creates quite the double standard. women run around to much and yet he has a mistress and numerous lovers before Myrtle. The irony in Tom's statement is not only funny because of the double standard, but Daisy is running around. She's running around with Gatsby. Gatsby's obsession with the past and the making up of lost time will be his downfall. No one can repeat the past. Gatsby can try to do this but something dark is coming.
Emily F 5
2/13/2014 11:18:16 pm
Riley, I agree with you that something dark is coming due to Gatsby attempting to recreate the past. I think that Nick saying “I wouldn’t and too much of her… You can’t create the past” (Fitzgereld 116) foreshadows this because Nick seems to be the sanest character in the book. I also think it is ironic what Tom says about women running around too much. He is the one running around too much, not Daisy. I think its interesting that he says this because he has a mistress and he is obviously glad that she is running around so he can be with her. The fact that he complains about his is very ironic and could also foreshadow Daisy and Gatsby’s relationship.
Emylee F. Period 5
2/17/2014 08:11:22 am
I completely agree with you Riley, on how this background of Gatsby reveals almost everything about him. However, I believe this background story also reveals many things about other characters. Like with Nick, I think this is how readers can infer one reason as to why he looks up to Gatsby enormously. It also can help identify some key subjects of how Gatsby and Tom differ, towards aspects in life and with Daisy. Which is very important to tune into when the reader is looking at Daisy's point of view.
Tyler Ken. 1
2/13/2014 06:19:45 am
The novel seems to tie together in chapter 6. Gatsby's life and his desire for Daisy seem to reveal itself in chapter 6. While at Gatsby's house Gatsby states " I know your wife" aggressively to Tom. Gatsby wants to take Daisy away from Tom and this sparks Tom to believe that " women run around too much these days to suit me. They meet all kinds of crazy fish" (110). Tom senses that his wife is possibly bringing pursed by a "crazy fish" which is Gatsby and Tom may feel threatened. The Sloane's early departure from Gatsby's also displays a difference between the old rich and the new rich. After the party Tom states " Who is this Gatsby anyhow? ... Some big bootlegger", and when responding to where he heard that Tom states "I didn't hear it. I imagined our. A lot of these new rich people are just big bootleggers" (114). I think Fitzgerald is trying to point out that class warfare is not just between different classes, but can also be in a class on one's method of reaching a certain class.
Rachel Period 5
2/18/2014 12:21:11 am
I definitely agree with the later part of the response, I never really thought of that side of it but I like it. You can definitely see it, in not just rich people but even in real life, just the way people live differently.
Dong L. Period 5
2/13/2014 07:40:13 am
At this point of the story, after learning about the "real" Gatsby, I think that Fitzgerald did this in order to show that James Gatz has a great dream and that is to marry the woman he love which is Daisy. The word "Great" can relate to his desire to achieve his dream thus having the title of the book call "The Great Gatsby". Also, since everything in the book is coming together, I think that the theme is revolve around time because when Nick said, "You can't repeat the past" (Fitzgerald 110). Gatsby's true desire is to recreate the time five years ago when he was with Daisy and he is willing to do anything for it.
Kelsey J 1
2/13/2014 10:01:57 am
Although the theme has been addressed and partially answered, I believe that it hasn't been completely addressed yet. Since we still have 3 chapters left I believe that there is a climax still to come. Especially since another wrench has been thrown in. Gatsby explains that "'she didn't like it,' he insisted... 'I feel far away from her'" (Fitzgerald 87). I feel that Daisy, Tom, and Gatsby's love and affair problems have yet to be solved and therefore there may be more to the theme than just one saying that past is not repeatable.
Emily F 5
2/13/2014 08:13:04 am
At this point in the story, we can understand why decisions in the past were made and infer how things will happen in the future. We learned that Gatsby was not always rich; he was James Gatz when he was working one “afternoon in a torn green jersey and a pair of canvas pants, but it was Jay Gatsby who borrowed a row boat, pulled out to the Toulomee and informed Cody that a wind might catch him and break him up in a half an hour” (Fitzgereld 104). Gatsby is very ambitious and is always working to achieve what he wants. I thought Tom’s statement that “women run around too much these days” is ironic because his wife is always staying at home while he is the one running around, cheating, and being immoral. It could also foreshadow that Daisy will decide to leave him and run off with Gatsby. Gatsby believing that he can create the past exemplifies his ambition and determination to be with Daisy. He had already done so much to get her back and he believes his pan is working. However, Tom says “I wouldn’t ask too much of her… You can’t repeat the past” (116), which could indicate that Gatsby’s plan may not work.
Megan J P4
2/17/2014 07:55:21 am
I really like how you call Tom's statement ironic and I agree that it foreshadows that Daisy may decide try to leave Tom and run off with Gatsby. I also find it interesting that after your second quote Nick says that Gatsby "wanted to recover something, some idea of himself perhaps, that had gone into loving Daisy" (Fitzgerald 113). So, I agree with you that the future chapters will portray Gatsby's plan not working out but I also think this lost aspect of Gatsby will be revealed as well.
Andrea C. 2
2/13/2014 08:21:02 am
Up to this point in the novel, Fitzgerald has revealed certain characters and ideas to a certain limit. Chapter 6 is the time when the loose ends are tied together and the events fall into place. I think Fitzgerald chose now to expose them because he wanted the reader to come up with his own assumptions and create an element of mystery throughout the novel. There is a lot of irony when Tom says, "women run around too much these days to suit me. They meet all kinds of crazy fish" (110). Tom himself is not innocent when it comes to having affairs. James Gatz's transformation into Jay Gatsby proves that he will do anything to make a man of himself and prove he is worthy of Daisy's love. Fitzgerald has created a masterpiece that captures the emotions of humans when they are in love and also consumed with selfishness.
Imani B. 5
2/17/2014 10:36:20 am
Andrea, I agree with you on Gatsby transformation to becoming Jay Gatsby to prove that he will do anything to make a man of himself. I feel as if his mystery was being revealed in the chapter and it gave away answers to questions that readers have been wondering about him since the beginning of the novel. I do also feel like it is ironic when Tom says that women run around too much to suit him, when he's the one cheating on his wife by running around with other women. I think that his decisions to do that are going to end up biting him in the butt later on.
Megan Jaros P4
2/13/2014 08:27:15 am
Because of Chapter 6, I think Fitzgerald has created a strong plot that is going to lead to the climax. This chapter gives readers Gatsby’s true personal history and details how determined he is to achieve his dreams. “Dan Cody… had been coasting along all too hospitable shores for five years when he turned up as James Gatz’s destiny in Little Girl Bay… To Young Gatz… that yacht represented all the beauty and glamour in the world” (Fitzgerald 102). Because of Cody, Gatsby became determined to become just as wealthy and win back Daisy through this wealth. This is why Gatsby is considered “great” in the title; He has ambition that allowed him to start from the bottom and end up on top. Gatsby being part of the new rich causes him to lack some of the social skills of the old rich and he aggressively says to Tom, “I know your wife” (104). This prompts Tom to utter his old-fashioned moral statement about women running around too much these days. Tom becomes starts to become clued in to Gatsby’s plans to recreate the past with Daisy and makes it his mission to “find out who he is and what he does” (111). This sets the novel up for its climax, which I think will be a confrontation between Tom and Gatsby.
Rose A Period 4
2/17/2014 01:28:48 pm
Megan, I really like how you mentioned that because of Cody, Gatsby became determined to become just as wealthy and win Daisy back through wealth. So ultimately Cody is the reason Gatsby is in the position he is to try to win her back. Also, determining what the 'great' in the title means is genius! Never even crossed my mind!
Harshita K 1
2/13/2014 08:44:08 am
As we reach the end of chapter six everything mysterious about Jay Gatsby is coming together through series of past events. This chapter and the story as a whole explores the topic of social class as it relates to the life of Gatsby.Gatsby is the fabrication of a young Midwestern dreamer, the son of "shiftless and unsuccessful farm people"(98). who spent his youth planning how he would escape his life that he never really accepted at all. Throughout this novel Gatsby has been carrying around a cloud of uncertainty and desperation with a tint of mystery. We meet this character Dan Cody who is purposefully created to show the desire that Gatsby has been yearning for wealth and status. The readers learn that he goes to great lengths just to be with the girl he wants.The girl who works so effortlessly to gain her wealth and luxury.Although a big part of Gatsby is revealed there are still parts that are missing to the puzzle.
Matt C. 1
2/13/2014 09:00:47 am
By revealing Gatsby's past, it has made a lot of the novel come full circle. It answers a lot of questions the reader has had up to this point, but it also creates a few more, such as how has Gatsby acquired all of his money? By revealing James Gatz, the reader understands a lot of the motives behind doing what he does. When it says, "he was left with his singularity appropriate education; the vague contour of Jay Gatsby had filled out to the substantiality of a man" (Fitzgerald 101), it helps the reader to understand why Gatz has devoted his life to becoming rich and successful. I think that this is defiantly one of the most interesting reads we have had in English class thus far.
Alyssa Z. period 4
2/13/2014 09:16:46 am
I agree with how this novel is the most interesting so far. It is also my favorite. I also question how Gatsby truly inherited all this money. But as you mentioned his motives, I feel that this chapter gave the reader a little more insight to Gatsby's mind and why he does the things he does.
Alyssa Z. period 4
2/13/2014 09:13:17 am
What Fitzgerald was referring to when he mentioned women running around was the little respect they have for them selves. And in this chapter, a lot is revealed abiut Jay Gatsby and the novel ia starting to come together. I personally think the novel is very relative so society, even somewhat today. Daisy is the perfect trophy wife, but it also very smart and wants her daughter to be "a little fool" and that is what has made me like Daisy the most. Even though it sounds like she wants her daughter to be uneducated, she truly wants her to be smart enough to be aware but oblivious enough to not be able to realize the things she doesn't have in life, therefore making her happier. And that is why I find Daisy so interesting.
Jordan T. P. 4
2/13/2014 09:45:27 am
I agree that Daisy will raise her daughter to not make the same mistakes as she did. Women in society are changing and obviously not for the best, I think they are loosing value and it's true to society today. Girls throw themselves away instead of waiting for true love. I'd like to hear more about what you think of Daisy and Gatsby together based on this chapter.
Daniella A. P4
2/14/2014 02:06:45 am
Alyssa, I agree with what you're saying. I realized that the novel relates to society today, as well from all of the class rankings and from Daisy's story line. Daisy is a very interesting character. The way she goes about life and her morals make her different from everyone else.
Trevor K 4
2/16/2014 02:00:27 pm
I do agree that Fitzgerald was commenting on how unfair life was to women in the novel, however I believe that Fitzgerald is instead pointing out how contradicting and hypocritical Tom is. He is constantly running around, but shows no regret for it. What we learn about Gatsby is that he has essentially recreated himself to fit his dreams and goals. He changes his name to symbolize a new beginning. It is understandable that Daisy wants her daughter to be a fool because of how troubling Daisy's life has been. She is constantly emotionally distressed and struggles with her past.
Katelyn B Period 2
2/13/2014 09:37:04 am
Fitzgerald by the end of chapter 6 has a majority of the novel’s mysteries, especially Gatsby’s character, revealed; creating a strong plot that seems to be the development of the climax by having all the events and characters fall into place. The reveal of the “real” James Gatz is one of the novel’s most significant as it conveys how Jay Gatsby came to be the man that he is currently presented to the audience. Gatsby, in order to achieve the success he now has, had to work hard his entire life by going to war, working as a janitor, and then being Dan Cody’s assistant. All this hard work, ultimately leading to his inheritance of wealth and success was to prove he is worthy of Daisy’s affection; showing that he is will to do anything and everything for her. Additionally, as Tom and Gatsby first meet, Gatsby brings up the fact that he knows Tom’s wife, Daisy, but little does Tom know that those two have a past history together. Tom reacts by saying: “…women run around too much these days to suit me” (Fitzgerald 103), which is an ironic and hypocritical statement coming from him. Tom has an affair with Myrtle as he is still married to Daisy and thinks he has the full authority to not be fully committed to his wife, but when he is presented with the receiving ends perspective of women also copying those actions he feels that it is not right and disrespectful. Ironically enough, Daisy is playing Tom’s game as well and is now seeing Gatsby on a regular basis. This plot build up can be a potential foreshadow to the climax where a conflict between both Tom and Gatsby arise over their love for Daisy.
Lizzy K P4
2/14/2014 11:31:13 am
I agree. Fitzgerald has set up the story perfectly for the climax. The contradictory statements made by Tom and how Nick notices the differences in Gatsby's parties is foreshadowing the climax, which I assume will happen soon. I think the hostility that all the characters display through their word choice, such as Gatsby being "Moved by an irresistible impulse" (Fitzgerald 101), gives hints to the reader that what happens next is going to be crucial to the resolution of the novel.
Taylor D. 4
2/13/2014 09:38:03 am
This chapter, although it isn't the end, leaves the reader with less questions. This was yet another important chapter for the character of Gatsby. This one as opposed to the last one, explains his transformation as a man. He has proven many times that he will do anything and everything to gain back the love of Daisy. It is impossible not to ask more questions about Gatsby because he can be really hard to read but this chapter ties all the loose ends we had. It is actually very romantic that Gatsby went to all this trouble to gain Daisy back. It shows a lot about his character. That is what this chapter was for me, it was a more clear idea of Gatsby's personality. All of his past lies have been exposed and now we are able to understand why he lied and why he is so secretive.
Riley S. P2
2/16/2014 09:07:35 am
I agree with all your statements,Taylor. But i have often questioned throughout the novel if Gatsby's passion, secrecy and drive to win Daisy back will evolve to a darker side. He is a great man, with a great heart, but he is involved with sketchy people. The need to repeat the past, I fear, is not only his want for Daisy's love but I think he fears a downfall. All good things must come to an end, right? So when will his crumble?
Jordan T. P4
2/13/2014 09:41:15 am
Women running around, it wasn't usual before the time. Women had to be presented then have their or their parents choice of the man to marry. Now we see the evolution of the time period. Being rich is still held highly but like the standards of women it is falling. I think Fitzgerald leads us to believe that Daisy is not just beautiful but smart. She is raising her daughter to be street smart and that's good. I think all the characters play a role in this chapter and to see how each plays out in the end will be amazing. I still don't believe Daisy and Gatsby will be together. It's the feeling where I say Daisy has made her bed and now must lye in it.
Rachel H. Period 4
2/13/2014 09:44:36 am
I absolutely LOVE "The Great Gatsby". It is definitely one of my favorite books that I have read. I think everything that Fitzgerald puts in it is all just wonderful; from the symbols, to the characters and their secrets, as well as how they act around each other, I think that Fitzgerald has created something absolutely amazing. With this, chapter six is definitely a part in the book that reveals a lot of things, and where everything really unfolds. I love how significant the characters are. Jay Gatsby is extremely significant; he is so mysterious, but at the same time, I love his character, though most of the other characters in the novel think that he is "just [a] big bootlegger" (Fitzgerald 107). With this, it comments on all "newly rich people" and how they live their lives, as well as spend their money. Also, I love Daisy's character; she is an extremely smart individual, and has so much potential. I feel like her character is one of those people who is nice to everyone she meets, and cares for everyone, as well. She loves unconditionally, and the part that really got me to love her character right off of the bat is when she is talking about her daughter, and who she wants her to be a "beautiful little fool". Going off of what Alyssa had said, she wants her daughter to realize the things that are important in life, and the things that aren't are not noticeable to her. Both of these characters are very genuine, and I feel like they progress even more throughout the novel, and makes me like them both more and more.
Amanna V (4)
2/13/2014 04:38:44 pm
I really like your analysis regarding the characters and why you like them so much. I agree that each character has depth in them (especially Daisy and Gatsby) and they represent much more then they come off as. I see Daisy a bit differently now that you put her in this perspective. I originally thought of her as a poor unfortunate soul whose desire for wealth and status overpowered her judgment. But after reading this, I can see Daisy as someone who cares for everyone and doesn't want people to live the life she does.
Kelsey J 1
2/13/2014 09:46:48 am
Throughout the novel Gatsby has always interested me simply because of his seemingly perfect story of his life, yet these little odds and ends not quite making sense. For example is Gatsby had always explained that his "family had all died and (he) came into a good deal of money" (Fitzgerald 53). If this was so then why was he hanging out with the shady Wolfsheim? But now that it is explained that Gatsby has had to work for everything he has now, it is much more believable. I also like the fact that Gatsby is fairly realistic. He may be insanely rich but he has his quirks in his personality that make him more believable.
Brittany D period 1
2/17/2014 11:40:51 am
I like your idea of Gatsby but I do not exactly agree with you. I find Gatsby kind of disturbing. Nick describe him as a romantic but I think he is delusional. That might sound harsh but if you look at the facts, he is actually somewhat obsessive. And are we all just going to look over the fact that he is tryin to be a home wrecker.
Noelle Sather- Period 4
2/13/2014 09:51:56 am
Chapter 6 further explores the topic of social class as it relates to Gatsby. Nick’s description of Gatsby’s early life reveals the sensitivity to status that spurs Gatsby on. His humiliation at having to work as a janitor in college contrasts with the promise that he experiences when he meets Dan Cody, who represents the attainment of everything that Gatsby wants. Acutely aware of his poverty, the young Gatsby develops a powerful obsession with amassing wealth and status. Gatsby’s act of rechristening himself symbolizes his desire to jettison his lower-class identity and recast himself as the wealthy man he envisions. As is true throughout the book, Gatsby’s power to make his dreams real is what makes him “great.” In this chapter, it becomes clear that his most powerfully realized dream is his own identity, his sense of self. Gatsby’s conception of Daisy is itself a dream. He thinks of her as the sweet girl who loved him in Louisville, blinding himself to the reality that she would never desert her own class and background to be with him.
Morganne J p.5
2/13/2014 11:15:31 am
This is completely true! The entire novel in fact is Gatsby's longing search for a true identity. All along, he envisions himself as this 'new person' with Daisy being apart of that vision. The demanding time, work, and money was all an attempt to feel accepted into society and feel loved by the one and only vital person in his life, Daisy.
Bailey F p2
2/16/2014 09:39:15 am
I totally agree with you Noelle. The title of the novel, "The Great Gatsby," has a deeper meaning behind it. It represents the determination that Gatsby has to become the person that he wants to be. He meets Dan Cody, and that is when he really realizes what he wants in life. It helps him reevaluate, and adjust to what he wants to achieve in the future.
Amber H. p4
2/13/2014 09:55:08 am
I believe that Fitzgerald has created a truthful, a little crazy, but truthful story. Tom says that he doesn't like the fact that women run around too much, because of the war and mass loss of men and husbands, women do what they need to do to get by, even if that means making a few rich 'friends'. Gatsby hiding who he really is, is a major part of life too. He didn't like how he grew up, be didn't want to be stuck in that rut that his parents were in, so he made a new life for himself to shed the old one. And Gatsby wanting to go back in time, to fix his mistakes with Daisy is also truthful because people would want to take the chance to go back and fix it so he wouldn't have to go through this pain of losing Daisy for nearly 5 years. I love this novel because it speaks and related so much to life, and I think Fitzgerald did a great job at doing that.
Carl A. Period 5
2/15/2014 07:27:12 am
I agree, everything has a factual basis in "The Great Gatsby". Everything in the story is done and said for a reason. Gatsby is trying to create a new "him" because he was unhappy with his previous life with his farmer parents. He also wants to include Daisy in that life even though she is already with Tom and a child together. They previously held love together but that was five years ago and he can't let it go. He is trying to recreate that love they once had, but Daisy is having trouble saying it to Tom. Like you said, the story relates to life and Fitzgerald exemplifies that in his novel.
Rachel H. Period 4
2/16/2014 11:05:27 pm
I completely agree with you, Amber. Fitzgerald gives an extremely truthful story within "The Great Gatsby". I feel like it is really related to life, especially in the perspective of love. I also completely agree with you on what you said about "making a few rich 'friends'". I never really saw that before, but now that you brought it up, it really makes sense, especially in the sense that Daisy did make some rich friends, while Gatsby was away at war, and though they were separated, they still loved each other, even though she was married to Tom.
Chandler Stich Period 5
2/13/2014 09:55:27 am
The novel still has a couple chapters left so I still believe that their is a ton of information that we don't know and that we are not supposed to know. Chapter six gave us readers so much to ponder on that it is hard to say what we should believe in these characters. We knew a little bit that Daisy doesn't want to be with Tom, but Fitzgerald makes it clear in chapter six for us. We wondered how Daisy was gonna react when she was around Tom and Gatsby at the same time and she acted like we expected her too. She acted like she would have a better life with Gatsby without actually saying so. When Tom makes a comment about the people at Gatsby's party, Daisy replies with "At least they are more interesting than the people we know" (114). I think Fitzgerald shows us everything we need to know right there in that statement. Daisy is done, Tom is gonna loose what he loves and Gatsby is gonna get the girl. However a great novel would never end like that which is why I think there is still a ton more that is gonna happen to these characters. Up to this moment Fitzgerald has given us just enough information to assume, but not enough to understand which is why this novel is so interesting and beautifully written up to this point.
Corey J 5
2/16/2014 12:46:01 pm
I agree with this comment. Fitzgerald really had written a fantastic novel up to this point, and it doesn't look like it will stray from that in the remaining chapters. The way he writes, all the hidden little details that us as readers have to find make it such a great novel. Not to mention the actual plot to the story, which is so interesting. It makes me want to not put it down and finish the book in one sitting.
Lizzy K P4
2/13/2014 10:01:31 am
At this point in the story, Fitzgerald has set up everything he needs to before the climax. We have learnt the story of James Gatz and how "The Great Gatsby" was created, and we begin to see changes in the characters and Nick's description of the party. Nick mentions that there was "an unpleasantness in the air, a pervading harshness that hadn't been there before" (Fitzgerald 103). From here, we can tell that something is going to happen that will alter everything in the future of the book. I'm excited to read what will develop in Daisy and Gatsby's relationship and how that will affect Tom and Nick.
Miranda L Period 4
2/13/2014 12:00:33 pm
I agree with you Lizzy. I feel like something is going to happen that is going to change everything in the novel. I feel like all the background information has been given and soon the climax is going to come.
Becca K
2/13/2014 10:07:27 am
I believe Chapter 6 gives us a clear idea of what background Gatsby comes from as well as what his intentions with Daisy are. We learn that at a young age, he recreated himself, "he invented just the sort of Jay Gatsby that a seventeen-year-old boy would be likely to invent, and to this conception he was faithful to the end" (Fitzgerald 98). He left behind his old life in poverty and created a name for himself. I also think Chapter 6 allowed us to grasp a better understanding of what he wants with Daisy. He is desperately trying to recapture the past and "wanted nothing less of Daisy than that she should go to Tom and say: 'I never loved you'" (Fitzgerald 109). While I want Daisy and Gatsby to be together, I believe Gatsby is expecting to much of her. Gatsby thinks he can repeat the past, but I think that is impossible. So much is different now, and I don't think Daisy will have the courage to leave her safe life of wealth with Tom.
Taylor D. 4
2/16/2014 09:07:36 am
I really like how you brought up Gatsby's past to show how things have become so different for him as a person and for Daisy as well. After his teenage years, he decided to go and become someone completely new, I feel like this really helps readers understand why Gastby is how he is and the reasons behind his lies:
Chris Q 1
2/13/2014 10:13:10 am
This novel expresses that you can never escape your roots. Gatsby has spent all this time acquiring wealth and status, but he does not fit in with the other wealthy people in the novel. When Nick says that you can not change the past Gatsby says, "Why of course you can!" (Fitzgerald Ch 6). Gatsby believes he can escape his old life but as expressed by his misinterpretation of Tom's invitation, he can not.
Tyler Kol. 5
2/16/2014 12:35:25 pm
I completely agree with you Chris. Gatsby is attempting to alter the past in order to create the relationship he once had with Daisy, then make it stronger. this is difficult however because of Daisy's commitment to Tom. the roles begin to switch, and the girl readers felt bad for becomes like the very person readers are meant to hate, Tom.
Matt C 1
2/17/2014 07:36:48 am
I agree with you Chris. I think Gatsby is trying to hard to become something that he is not, just to impress Daisy. Daisy will have a hard time liking Gatsby for who he really is if he never shows his true colors around her and lets her know who he really is.
Richard Webb Period 5
2/23/2014 10:41:11 am
Chris I also agree with you. It is very clear that Gatsby is very desperate to relive the happier moments in his life when he was with Daisy. He believes that he has the power to make the same as it was five years ago, but in reality he is facing multiple conflcits that make it impossible
Julia C. 2
2/13/2014 10:20:41 am
So far we learned that Gatsby was not always a wealthy man and used to work for what he wanted to achieve. "It was James Gatz who had been loafing along the beach that afternoon in a torn green jersey and a pair of canvas pants," (Fitzgerald 98). The start of Gatsby's career shows the amount of ambition that he has. I think that this makes him an even stronger character at this point in the novel. I also think at this point in the novel it gives a clear picture that Daisy has the feelings for Gatsby that he has for her. This is shown through the part while Tom, Daisy, and Gatsby are all at his party and Daisy is saying how it more interesting here and is sticking up for Gatsby to Tom. Though this gives us a lot of information I think that there is still a large amount of information that we still need to find out about the past of these characters.
Ambreen M (period 1)
2/17/2014 05:12:14 am
I somewhat agree with you, Julia. James Gatz was the type of person who has ambition and goals to get what he desires however calling him a hard worker isn't the term I would use for him. He did work to get the money but it wasn't a lawful or right way to earn it, he instead chose the easiest route to achieve what he wanted.
Bailey F p2
2/13/2014 10:34:12 am
Through the six chapters that we have read, we can now understand the decisions that were made in the previous chapters, and infer how things will turn out in the future. We found out that Jay Gatsby was not always rich, but at one time he actually had to work for the money he wanted. I think that the title of the novel, The Great Gatsby, refers to how Gatsby is always able to receive what he wants just by working hard for it. I also think that Tom’s statement that “women run around too much these days” is ironic because his wife is the one always alone, while he is the one running around and cheating on her. This statement could also foreshadow that Daisy may run away from Tom to see Gatsby again. I think that chapter six has allowed us to fully understand all the things that Gatsby is doing to try to win Daisy back. He is working to find the connection that they once had before and "wanted nothing less of Daisy than that she should go to Tom and say: 'I never loved you'" (Fitzgerald 109). There have been a lot of unexpected things happen with the characters in this novel, and I think that there are more significant events to come.
Julia C. 2
2/16/2014 05:06:29 am
I agree with what you are saying about how we have learned a lot more on who Gatsby used to be. I think that it is important that we learned that Gatsby used to be poor because it gives us another idea of who he is as a person, and how he can work for what he wants and how everything was not just always handed to him. I also agree that it is strange how Tom thinks women run around too much, and he is the one who is cheating on his wife. I do think that Daisy will eventually leave Tom to go to Gatsby.
Jimmy M P2
2/16/2014 01:59:15 pm
I totally agree with you. This chapter is the answer to every question left for us to assume. We now know everyone's reasonings behind their decisions and the story really ties together.
Shivam P. period 2
2/13/2014 10:37:08 am
The Great Gatsby, in my opinion, is the best novel we have read in class. The overall story, the world play, and the mystery make it some of the best entertainment that is in a novel. This chapter, the truth of Jay gatz, really reveals sone of the mystery behind Daisy and Gatsby. For example l, this chapter shows us more in depth why Daisy hadn't married Jay.
Scott A.
2/16/2014 07:20:23 am
I agree with your statement, this book has been the most interesting that we have read in class so far. I love how the characters seemed so real and how the novel had a twist almost every chapter. The book did not seem easily predictable in any way and created mystery everywhere. I found myself questioning who Gatsby really was throughout the novel. I enjoyed hearing the truth to every mystery and found myself in pure shock.
Renick W. 1
2/24/2014 11:46:34 am
I agree as well, it hasn't been too much of a task to pick it up and read a few chapters over the weekend, or whatever. It is actually enjoyable and i would agree in saying it is the best book we have read in class.
Jack M.
2/13/2014 10:38:52 am
This chapter is a huge point in the book. Not only does it reveal Gatz's true past, but it also leaves the reader with a load of answers to possible questions. The novel up to this point has been paced exceptionally, not only does Fitzgerald introduce characters, plot points, and motifs with great timing, but the chapters themselves are almost all the same length, which says a ton about how well Fitzgerald writes and how much thought went into this book.
Josh S. 5
2/16/2014 01:58:08 pm
I completely agree with you Jack. I also believe that things are just starting to come together as a whole. We learn about the characters motives and who they really are and this leads to a beginning development of theme. From chapter 6, the reader learns that all Gatsby (or Jay) wants in life is to become successful because he was so caught up to his appearance for others.
Matt R. Period 2
2/13/2014 10:40:34 am
The Great Gatsby has come together at this point where the reader begins to identify the true motives behind the characters, revealing the theme. In the text, Fitzgerald creates a tension between Gatsby and Tom, when Gatsby states that he "knows [his] wife... Almost aggressively." The situation flip flops where now Tom begins to become jealous and angry towards Daisy for meeting this man. Throughout the text, Tom's desire for recognition is always apparent, and Gatsby is threatening his pride. Fitzgerald portrays how the cheater is now being cheated upon, displaying a lesson to those unfaithful to their wives. The irony of the situation creates huge tension and suspense in the chapter.
Bakari C. 2
2/13/2014 12:11:50 pm
Matt, your realization of "the cheater being cheated upon" is so significant to the novel and what will eventually happen in the end. Being someone who has read the book, if you have not, the path you are on and the level of understanding you have is very high. The lesson of unfaithful husbands is something that Fitzgerald shows so well, it is one of the reasons why this book, and Modernism as a whole, is one of the topics that is so apparent in today's society. This is one of the many themes in the book about cheating on your spouse that becomes so apparent, it causes major events to happen in the ending of the novel. Happy reading!
Tyler Kol. 5
2/13/2014 10:44:10 am
In this chapter the stories of Daisy’s past and present come together. Gatsby begins to recreate his past with daisy, but she is reluctant to do so, still being married to Tom. Gatsby never stops loving Daisy, and therefore wants to fix the issues which separated them in the past, and create a brighter future for the two of them. Nick interjects, explaining to Gatsby that the past cannot be altered. Gatsby then responds by saying "Why of course you can!" (Fitzgerald Ch. 6). While the conflict of Daisy’s past forces her to remember her love of Gatsby, she also has tom, Tom is addressed by Daisy for always being gone and known for cheating, such as when she said he could take her golden pencil to get addresses. Daisy is stuck between two people, bound by the marriage to a man she does not love, while loving a man who she has not seen in five years.
Kelly B P1
2/13/2014 11:01:31 am
The book as a whole has been compiled of many different pieces of the story. However the connection of these pieces have not been resolved yet. In this chapter we finally see why Gatsby is the man he has become. He has never once stopped loving Daisy and every last act that he has done to be where he is today was always for Daisy. He focused these past 5 years on trying to get Daisys attention. We also get insight on why Daisys life seems so sad and dull. It is because she left the man she loved and married for money. Now that Gatsby and Daisy have been reunited, some of the pieces have been connected but more have also been created. What will come from this time together? Fitzgerald gives a lot of insight on earlier parts of the novel but now leaves question for what is to come. Fitzgerald does a good job at keeping the reader wanting more. As for what is to come between Gastby and Daisy, it is obvious that Gatsby wishes to get her back, but as nick says: "I wouldn't ask too much of her, You can't repeat the past."
Lyssa L p4
2/16/2014 01:35:10 pm
I agree with you and I think you used a really great quote at the end there that has a powerful meaning behind it. I think it was a substantial use of foreshadowing by the author to suggest what is going to be the outcome of Gatsby and Daisy. It's good ambiguity for the reader, especially at chapter six, to wonder what twist will be thrown into the mix now that the readers know so much more about Gatsby.
Hailey A. 2
2/13/2014 11:09:50 am
In this chapter much of Gatsby's past is revealed and all the mysteries and stories of all the characters are also put out there. It pulls the novel together and puts forth what everyone thinks, such as how Nick thinks that girls run around too much which refers to, I think, to prostitution. I think the Fitzgerald did a very good job of raping the whole book together even though we would have all loved to see them fall back in love the moment they saw each other.
Costa D. (period 2)
2/16/2014 10:25:44 pm
I agree that Fitzgerald did a good job of bringing the whole book together and focusing on the points that matter. People's thoughts are put forward like Nick's reply and also Gatsby true character and past. This is definitely an important chapter that will set the pace for the rest of the book.
Giancarlo G. Period 1
2/13/2014 11:18:59 am
This story is very surprising and suspenseful to say the least. Between the characters and their actions to the abundance of symbols, I feel that Fitzgerald’s work will be studied for many more years to come. With the reveal of Jay Gatsby being very important to the whole novel, as we find out who he is as a character. The audience is able to understand why Daisy wouldn’t wait for him, and why Gatsby bought a huge mansion and throws very luxurious parties in hopes she will be dragged to one. Also, with the affair that Tom has with Myrtle surprises many, because Fitzgerald sets the audience up to believe that Tom is the “hulking,” man that society only wishes to be (Fitzgerald 12). Fitzgerald’s use of wording for symbols has a lot of many different interpretations, making it really possible for the audience to connect to the book in some aspect. For example, Fitzgerald uses simple objects like a clock and a shirt that stand for so much more, and helps the audience understand the mistakes and pain the characters are facing as they all try to move on with their lives.
Ammara A.
2/13/2014 12:15:39 pm
I agree with you Giancarlo. Fitzgerald definitely uses simple things or ideas for symbols and I think that's what make the characters so great and give them more depth. I also agree with the suspense because Fitzgerald slowly opens up about the characters and does the order in a very interesting manner.
Katelyn B Period 2
2/16/2014 12:44:18 pm
Though I agree with your statement that Fitzgerald sets the audience up to believe that Tom is a man society wishes to be, I would have to disagree with you on the part where many people are surprised about his affair with Myrtle. I feel as if this is almost expected out of a character like Tom himself. He is "hulking" (Fitzgerald 12) and is very wealthy considering he spent three hundred and fifty thousand dollars on a pearl necklace for Daisy. These two characteristics alone would have plenty of women during this time period all over him and he can use them to his advantage if he is looking for attention in other ways Daisy may not provide. Myrtle for example enjoys to drink alcohol where Daisy is claimed to not drink much,so Tom can easily use drinking as an excuse to spend time with Myrtle. He is an intimidating character and seems to get what he wants, so him cheating on Daisy and not being abandoned by her does not come off as a shock. However, when Tom is put on the other viewpoint of an affair he views it as disrespectful, which is hypocritical because he is cheating on Daisy, yet it is also ironic because at this point he is unaware of Daisy also playing this game by is seeing Gatsby outside of their relationship.
Melissa S. (Period 2)
2/13/2014 11:25:23 am
Chapter 6 definitely is a point where the reader finally understands what is going on, and a lot of questions are answered. The mystery man in the picture on Gatsby's wall was finally explained to be James Gatz. And he was the one who got Gatsby started with money. In this chapter we also learned Gatsby's intentions for Daisy. He threw a party in order to impress her, but it didn't particularly work. So now he intends to do everything he can to make things as they were five years before when they were young and in love. This chapter finally ties together all of the confusing subplots and mushes them into one so that the connection between them is clear.
Jennifer C. Period 1
2/13/2014 12:13:43 pm
I do agree with you, Melissa, on how readers are not putting together pieces from the plot so that the novel is making more sense. Ever since Daisy didn't wait for him, Gatsby has been striving to perfect himself almost so that the couple could be reunited, however Daisy didn't seem to enjoy the party at all. Gatsby does seem discouraged, however he is determined "to fix everything just the way it was before" (110). Now we can only continue reading to see how Gatsby plans to impress or persuade Daisy that he would have been the better choice over Tom.
Jordan C 5
2/13/2014 11:32:30 am
I feel like at this point in the story, Fitzgerald has, in a way, just now finished setting up the backgrounds of the characters. Gatsby's entire story from past life to present life is now confirmed, Daisy's past with Gatsby is explained, and then there's Nick who still plays the middle man and gives his input wherever it's necessary.We already knew all we could about Tom who is as thick skulled as his stacks of money are. Now that Fitzgerald has, as it says in the blog question, "put the story together," a lot of the climactic scenes can present themselves without seeming too confusing. I think from Gatsby's past, it really sets in stone the true personality of Gatsby, which in turn makes it easier to understand his motives, "The truth was that Jay Gatsby... sprang from his Platonic conception of himself... and to this conception, he was faithful to the end" (98). Basically, Gatsby's desire to rise out of the ashes of his poor past and to woo Daisy with success and a gentle heart let the reader know that he is truly a genuine person. Sure, people make mistakes. Gatsby makes many mistakes as he is a bit disloyal to Nick and his work is a bit shady, but in the bigger picture, he's only doing it for his one love. This kind of emotionally attaches the reader to Gatsby for the rest of the story as his actions seem more innocent as they are only for love.
Mildreth T period1
2/13/2014 11:42:57 am
Personally, I think that Fitzgerald did a good job of making the reader feel something for Gatsby when he told Nick the real truth. I felt like since Gatsby started off dirt poor and worked his way up, then anything is possible. On the other hand, I think Fitzgerald is also tying it back up with the whole "American Dream" of being something more than the average person. Fitzgerald is also touching upon the theme of social class/ status when Tom, the sloanes and Gatsby are together. Even though Gatsby has just as much money as they do, Tom and the sloanes still look down upon him since he lacks the "natural born grace" that they possess.
Maddy.B 2
2/13/2014 11:44:45 am
I think this chapter describes characters really well. When Tom states that girls run around to much he may be taking about prostitution but one must think of the tube period. It is the roaring twenties and just after world war 2 ebbs and women are asked more rights. They are now asked many more freedoms so off course they are running around. Gatsby loves daisy and when Nick treks him "i wouldn't ask too much of her, you can't repeat the past. " (Fitzgerald 109) he freaks put becausr he loves daisy and Fitzgerald bright up a point that today is still relevant. You can't always have what you want
Kyra J. Period 1
2/17/2014 08:54:46 am
I absolutely agree with you Maddy. I think Fitzgerald's main point in this story is definitely still relevant to today. Gatsby has clearly based his whole life on the past, and he wants Daisy to base her life on it too, but he can't have his cake and eat it too. I also think that the statement that Tom says is very hypocritical. Girls may run around too much, but who is he to complain when he's running around with one of them?
Ryan D 5
2/13/2014 11:45:04 am
The Great Gatsby has definitely been one of the most enjoyable books that we have read this year. Fitzgerald has created believable, mysterious characters that readers want to learn more about. Gatsby has been set up to have a prefect downfall so to speak. His questionable ways of getting his wealth and the wall of lies he has built to try to get Dasiy back have left readers divided on whether he is a good character or a phony n
Corey K. (period 5)
2/13/2014 12:00:15 pm
I totally agree with this. Fitzgerald's characters are 100 percent believable and feel as if they can be real. Gatsby's mysterious past and deliberate decisions to hide his past make him not just a character but a person. This sets up the question "Is Gatsby a good person" beautifully. What are we not seeing that Nick does? Is he a criminal, phony who's longing for Daisy has become an obsession, or a personal guy that values money, morals and the pursuit of happiness? Chapter six further deepens these questions yet slowly reveals the answers.
Ryan F. 2
2/13/2014 11:48:06 am
As far as books we read for English class, The Great Gatsby is definitely one of my favorites so far. My favorite part of the chapter was Tom's comment about Daisy running off; "By God, I may be old-fashioned in my ideas, but women run around too much these days to suit me" (Fitzgerald 103). This almost made me laugh out loud because that is exactly what he does to Daisy all the time and he sounds like an idiot the way he comments on it to Nick without the realization that he does that.
Kevin H p4
2/17/2014 01:48:23 pm
I think that the reason that he does not realize what he is saying is because he is still truly in love with Daisy, and does not realize that what he feels when she cheats on him is the same thing that she feels when he cheats on her. In chapter seven, while arguing with Gatsby and Daisy, Tom says "Once in a while I go off on a spree and make a fool of myself, but I always come back, and in my heart I love her all the time" (131) This just reconfirms what we already saw in the part where Tom punches Myrtle for talking about Daisy, that Tom truly does love Daisy.
Jordan C 2
2/13/2014 11:49:59 am
At this point in the novel, Fitzgerald has thrown everything he feels he needs to at us right now. We learn that Gatsby was never actually Gatsby and there is not Gatsby by James Gatz. This shows that Gatsby cannot in some aspects not to be trusted as he lied about everything in his life and basically after hitting it big changed his name to live a new life that he created not the one he grew up with. Then we are introduced to Tom's moral of how women shouldn't be running around everywhere. This idea of Tom's is almost him saying that it's wrong for a women to cheat when the man cheats, Tom feels as though Daisy is cheating on him and that she is finally fed up with his cheating habits. Suddenly after this is said by Tom, he constantly is at Daisy's side and doing everything and anything with her and for her. Almost his way of winning her back. Even with both of these things happening Fitzgerald then decides to add another revelation about Gatsby he can't stand that the past is the past. That seems as though it showed in previous chapters to a point but then once with Daisy he almost was cursed to recreate the past and almost create a new future with Daisy in his life. However, Daisy has other things in mind. This chapter starts answering questions the reader has about the characters and starts allowing two and two together. While this is happening Fitzgerald is also creating problems between characters that were not there in the first place. Especially between Tom and Gatsby over Daisy. These two men are trying their hardest to fix their messes they created to get what they want. For some that is working but for the other it is just pushing Daisy further and further away. So from here to the rest of the book I feel that there is going to be a war over Daisy by Gatsby trying to recreate the past to finally have Daisy in his life and Tom trying to fix his marriage.
Stephanie B; period 5
2/13/2014 11:50:58 am
I personally find The Great Gatsby to be an extremely compelling story. To illustrate: “I felt an unpleasantness in air, a pervading harshness that hadn’t been there before. Or perhaps I had merely grown used to it, grown to accept West Egg as a world complete in itself, with its own standards and its own great figures, second to nothing because it had no consciousness of being so, and now I was looking at it again through Daisy’s eyes. It is invariable saddening to look through new eyes at things upon which you have expended your own powers of adjustment (104). This passage basically summarizes the novel. Fitzgerald uses Nick to express his view of an empty world that is made up of immorality, materialism and shallowness. The people within the West Egg lack almost any kind of humanity, such as able to feel empathy for others. What makes this passage especially interesting is that its sets the stage for upcoming tragic events. Of all the other characters, Nick is the only one that is able to see what’s happening. He is perceptive and intuitively knows that no good can come to the people of West Egg from now on. Nick describes the party in chapter six in such a way that it almost does not matter who is there. “The same sort of people” attends the party, doing the same things and indulging in the same way (104). In fact, from Nick’s perspective, the people in this society are interchangeable because they are all the same; they all worship the same gods: money, selfishness, materialism, etc. Again, perhaps Fitzgerald uses Nick to express his own feelings about a shallow society based on artificiality.
Joe S. 2
2/13/2014 11:51:07 am
"Great" can have a variety of meanings. (like "Lucky" Luciano) Gatsby shows himself off as extremely powerful with the magnitude of his parties, how he avoided the speeding ticket (and the size of that landyacht), and his big, grand lawn, among other things. However, we learn he is just a simple man with relatively simple desires. he puts on a façade to try and impress her, but then resorts to the simplicity, like the man he is, in trying to win her over. This not only shows the strength of Gatsby's desire, it also shows how intelligent he is in the fact that he can adapt quickly to achieve that desire. it's almost paradoxical how he is so cunning, yet so simple.
Carl A. Period 5
2/13/2014 11:51:13 am
In chapter 6, a detailed explanation of Gatsby and his past allows us to see why certain actions were taken and what might occur later on in the novel. We know the truth about him, "His parents were shiftless and unsuccessful farm people-his imagination had never really accepted them as his parents at all. The truth was that Jay Gatsby of West Egg, Long Island, sprang from his Platonic conception of himself. He was a son of God..." (Fitzgerald 98). He worked hard and was very ambitious in creating his "American dream". He made an effort to become wealthy all for his dreams. That is why I think the book is called "The Great Gatsby". The challenges he faced early on and he still comes out on top of many is inspiring. The chapter also sets up to what might be a confrontation between Tom and Gatsby, as they fight for Daisy's love and this chapter exemplifies Tom's insecurity about Daisy even though he has always been unfaithful to her. The book is a masterpiece that still relates to society today and will only further improve as the book winds down to the end.
Dong L. Period 5
2/14/2014 08:17:26 am
I agree with your idea on how you think the reason why Fitzgerald called the book "The Great Gatsby". The reason why is that Jay Gatsby worked hard to aim for his dream. Also I think his ambition connects with Modernism's "American dream". The challenges Gatsby faced early on and he still comes out on top of many is inspiring.
Paulette D. Period 5
2/13/2014 11:52:19 am
I think the novel is an accurate illustration of the social issues we face as a society. Each character portrays the different types of people that make up our society. For example, Daisy is a housewife/trophy wife; Tom represents the hypocrites; Nick represents the trustworthy people, and Gatsby symbolizes ambition. James Gatz a.k.a Jay Gatsby makes up a person “that a seventeen-year-old boy would be likely to invent, and to this conception he was faithful to the end” (Fitzgerald 98). All of Gatsby’s life, he has been able to accomplish so much, but the one thing he truly wants is something that he cannot have, which is Daisy. I think the fact that he cannot have Daisy will drive him insane and cause him to make terrible decisions.
Giancarlo G. Period 1
2/16/2014 12:44:19 pm
I agree with you, Paulette. “The Great Gatsby” is very suspenseful. Between the characters and their actions to the abundance of symbols, there is a lot going on. Your point about each character representing a social issue in society is spot on. Jay Gatsby bought a huge mansion and throws very luxurious parties in hopes that his long lost love, Daisy, will be dragged to one. Jay Gatsby has it all, except for what he truly wants, which is Daisy. As we can see, there is hostility between Gatsby and Tom, “I know your wife,” continued Gatsby, almost aggressively (Fitzgerald 102). Gatsby will cause trouble and do anything to get the one thing he cannot have, Daisy. Fitzgerald’s use of wording for certain actions have many different interpretations, making it possible for the reader to connect to the character and see their true intentions in some way.
Alayna D Period 1
2/17/2014 10:40:21 am
I, along with Giancarlo, agree with you Paulette. The social structure of society is correctly portrayed by Fitzgerald. The characters each have their own place in our current society. Gatsby for example shows the people in society that want everything. He wants the money, popularity, and love. He does everything he can to get all his desires, even though this causes awful rumors about himself and people abusing his kindness.
Mark M 5.
2/13/2014 11:52:53 am
After this point in the story, Fitzgerald "reveals" the real past history of Jay Gatz, but I honestly still have trouble believing the story that is displayed to us. I mean he was still lying to Nick about how he "inherited" his money in the first place when talking to Daisy. More than likely I'm just looking too much into things that happened in past chapters, and this actually is Gatsby's true story, but I still have my doubts.
Chris B 5
2/13/2014 11:53:25 am
Chapter 6 not only threw away the mystery behind Gatsby but also brought forth some of the tension between Tom and Gatsby when daisy falls back in love with him. It also brings forth my favorite quote in the novel so far “I know your wife,” continued Gatsby, almost aggressively(84). This quote is the first time we see direct contact between them on the subject of daisy. Chap 6 makes a huge point on focusing on Toms realization that he has lost Daisy. It really was a clincher for me and I think Fitzgerald did an awesome job on it.
Corey K. (period 5)
2/13/2014 11:54:51 am
Chapter six is a phenomenal point within the novel because it uncovers several qualities about Jay Gatsby and urges readers to question his actions. Gatsby's motives throughout the entire novel can be seen within chapter six and partially five. Once he met Dan Cody, his life would change forever. He put value into wealth and materialistic items and made it his goal to become rich. He became aware of his self-image While recalling the event, "It was James Gatz who had been loafing along the beach that afternoon in a torn green jersey and a pair of canvas pants, but it was Jay Gatsby who borrowed a rowboat, pulled out to the Tuolomee..." (98). Then after a period of time and his inherited money stolen, he entered into some criminal business. Fitzgerald leaves the reader questioning what is truly great about Gatsby. He is a criminal, who is trying to separate a couple and gets wrapped up in materialist things due to his lack of money at an early age and his dream to be with Daisy. He wasn't a part of a rich family, but rather a college janitor that "worked" his way into wealth. And now, Jay Gatsby the millionaire, is clouded by his past, his overwhelming feelings for Daisy and his self-image.
Miranda L Period 4
2/13/2014 11:57:12 am
After reading chapter six, many unanswered questions are finally answered about Daisy and Gatsby. A reader finally gets to see the true feelings that Daisy and Gatsby have for each other and most importantly, we get to see how Gatsby treats Nick. It is very obvious that he just uses Nick to get to Daisy so we see a different side of him that no one thought was there before. Readers also find out that everything Gatsby has ever done with his life was to impress Daisy. I feel like chapter six really opens up the novel and answers many questions that readers have from the first few previous chapters.
Tyler S Period 4
2/13/2014 11:59:45 am
In chapter 6, Gatsby's true history comes out along with the answers to mostly all of our questions. Fitzgerald has taken 6 out of the 9 chapters of the book to mostly create his characters and the setting. I think this is something that is very important to realize. This does show how thought out and well developed each character, specifically Gatsby, is. The way that Fitzgerald has created his characters is something that i enjoyed reading very much. He uses Nick to slowly reveal the information to us piece by piece until we finally knew everything we needed to in order for a climax to occur. I do feel that some of our views of Gatsby may be swayed just because Nick was always so fond of Gatsby before even ever meeting him. We see the rising action in this chapter; the conflict over Daisy between Tom and Gatsby and we are now ready for a climax to occur within the upcoming chapters.
Costa D.
2/13/2014 12:04:01 pm
The Great Gatsby is finally coming together because for the longest time, we as readers were in the dark. We didn't quite kno who Gatsby was and how Tom, Daisy and Jordan were going tow become important. I think Fitzgerald has stylistically set up the plot gradually in Order to see how everything comes together. He is setting us up for a main event that will explain everything like the books themes and motifs. Personally, I've enjoyed the book so far because I like the fact
Gatsby is a romantic and truely loves Daisy. Gatsbys character is introduced to us little at a time to observe how he fits in with the plot.
Jennifer C. Period 1
2/13/2014 12:04:30 pm
The novel has been somewhat of a mystery as Fitzgerald slowly reveals little bits and pieces about the plot and the characters; however, he has not discussed much about Gatsby’s past until this chapter. Gatsby is a very interesting character and what makes him so mysterious is the rumors and uncertainty surrounding about whom he really is. James Gatz had been Gatsby before he decided to make a new identity for himself. Gatsby has many motives for a wealthier lifestyle; he wants a different life than his parents had provided him, as “his imagination... never really accepted them as his parents at all” (Fitzgerald 97). Once he met Daisy and eventually lost her, he had made it his life goal to impress her with his wealth and restore the past that he has longed for. The readers slowly start to place pieces of the plot together to describe a man hoping to be reunited with the one person he loves by continuously throwing parties to impress Daisy even though she is with another person, Tom. Gatsby, who I use to believe was just a man with a lot of money who enjoys spending it on elaborate parties, is now someone completely different
Bakari C. 2
2/13/2014 12:04:31 pm
From a cynical point of view, this chapter, to me, shows the obsession and fixation that Gatsby has with his image. He has created someone in himself who can be the ideal man of the time period. not only has the want for success of the time pushed him to be who he is, but Daisy leaving him pushed him even further. Gatsby understands that Daisy has a certain lifestyle as to which she is accustomed to and he must be able to provide that. To do so, it seems that he must almost remove James Gatz from his person (besides the love) and have the outer make-up of Tom Buchannan. With those problems in mind, Fitzgerald creates tension with both of the men in the lives they have created for themselves. Both men, specifically Gatsby in his mysterious accumulation of money, in this chapter have revealed many answers but have caused new questions to come about that were not present before. This chapter has most definitely been one of the best to read by almost finding out about a "new" character who goes by the name of James Gatz.
Andrea B period 2
2/16/2014 01:51:40 pm
This kind of gave me a different perspective of the chapter. I didn't really think of the fact that Gatsby is trying to possibly remove that part of his past away, but I wonder if he would REALLY want to remove that part that daisy had once fallen in love with? Other than that I do agree with what you said, and it made me look at the situation a little differently.
Monica E. Period 1
2/13/2014 12:05:11 pm
After reading chapter 6, it can be concluded that we have a good understanding of Daisy's and Gatsby's history, and how their love blossomed in the past. However, Gatsby does not want to just remember the past, he wants it to become the present. "Can't repeat the past...Why of course you can!" (Fitzgerald 110). Fitzgerald is portraying future events that could happen because of Gatsby's love for Daisy. At this point, I feel that Fitzgerald has created a love story between Daisy and Gatsby. However they are apart not only by social class, but by society. Even after Gatsby becomes wealthy, he does not fit in with society and cannot have Daisy.
Paulette D. Period 5
2/16/2014 07:31:52 am
I agree with you, Monica that chapter 6 revealed the love story of Daisy and Gatsby, and that Gatsby wants to relive the past. I don’t agree that their social class and/or society is keeping them apart. Daisy’s marriage with Tom is what is keeping them from being together. Gatsby wants to make the past be the present, but Daisy tells Gatsby, “oh you want to much…. I love you now ---isn’t that enough… I can’t help what’s past…I did love him once—but I loved you too” (Fitzgerald 132). I think that Gatsby can’t let go of the past, because when Daisy left him, his world stopped, but Daisy’s continued.
Carissa C. P4
2/13/2014 12:08:09 pm
I like the novel so far. I believe that Fitzgerald is portraying the American Dream through Gatsby by using his rags-to-riches story. He describes some of Gatsby's earlier jobs and how he was "a clam digger and a salmon digger or in any other capacity that brought him food and bed" (Fitzgerald 94). He works hard to get where he is in the novel as a wealthy, rich man with a notorious reputation for throwing parties. The transformation of James Gatz to Jay Gatsby is so intriguing especially the significance of the mistress at the end of Gatsby's explanation to Nick. I feel that Gatsby not only uses his massive wealth to try and woo Daisy back, but more for himself as a form of self-reassurance that he will never go back to his old life as James Gatz. Another idea I think why Gatsby earned his wealth is because he felt he was robbed of his inheritance from Cody due to Cody's mistress. He did work to get his money. Fitzgerald does a terrific job of connecting all the storylines together.
Jordan C. 2
2/14/2014 09:37:44 am
I like your connection of the American dream and how Fitzgerald is showing that through Gatsby. Yes I do belief that Gatsby wanted to start new and he worked his hardest to get where he is currently in the novel. However, I believe that Gatsby didn't earn his wealth just because of Dan Cody and being cheated of his money it was just the beginning of him feeling that working hard pays off. So that's what inspired Gatsby to continue on.
Mackenzie K. period 1
2/13/2014 12:10:11 pm
I think that at this point in the story, the novel is coming together. We are starting to understand some of the foreshadowing that Fitzgerald had made in the beginning of the book. Like when Gatsby is described as having "a romantic readiness," (Fitzgerald 2). Later we discover that Gatsby is a romantic because he has basically dedicated the last 5 years of his life to trying to become successful and getting Daisy back.
Haley M period 4
2/16/2014 01:03:01 pm
I agree with your perspective of how the book is coming together. I also like your idea of how Gatsby is a romantic and dedicated his life to redeeming himself and winning back Daisy. He spends his whole life earning money to impress his love and give her what she wants. He is a very romantic and complicated man who has sweet and loving plans and hopes for his future.
Ammara A.
2/13/2014 12:11:05 pm
Fitzgerald describes Gatsby's character more to the readers, who he was in the past is not who he is now and wants to ensure that. He is a completely different person and Fitzgerald's purpose to introduce Jay as the wealthy man who lives in the mansion instead of the small town guy who grew up on a farm was because that man is non-existent anymore but the important thing is that the readers understand why Gatsby became so wealthy. He was attached to the lavished lifestyle that Cody had and wanted that for himself. We also see Daisy begin to fall more for Gatsby when she retaliated against Tom when he called Jay a bootlegger. Her defending Gatsby pulls the readers more towards their relationship and begins to build hope between the characters.
Rachel VW period 5
2/13/2014 12:14:10 pm
I think Fitzgerald created some kind of microcosm of what America was at that time. It's a part, "rags to riches" story when we find out who Gatsby really was. We find out that he was just a poor solider who fell in love. At that time in society, that was happening to a lot of soldiers going to war and leaving behind the ones they loved. He also covers both the hypocrisy factor that was seen in that time period with Tom. As he talks about women in today's world who were just like him, but he was disgusted. He's a hypocrite, men when the book was being written didn't want women to have any types of rights, but as the 19th admendment passed women gained power and became as such what Tom was saying. What we really find out is that Daisy once loved Gatsby. The parties, and reasons for, are based on getting Daisy back to love him. That's the love aspect of the movie, the most important one.
Brittany D 1
2/13/2014 12:14:18 pm
To me, I think the book, at this point, might actually have to many themes and morals and motifs. So much so that I am having a hard time focusing on which one. I also find myself having a hard time actually focusing on the story line because there is just so many double meanings and ideas to consider. This includes the idea of hypocrisy presented when Tom says that "women run around to much these days" and also the theme of rags to riches presented by Gatsby. Also at this point of the book I do not.see how things are exactly coming together. At this point I have no idea how the story will end, but I am not sure if I am excited or apprehensive about that.
hannah c period 1
2/13/2014 12:16:49 pm
At this point in the novel, the author reveals to us information about Gatsby that answers many questions that we have asked thus far. It explains details that were previously unclear and I believe this is setting up for the climax of the story. Chapter six was a chapter to tie together loose ends and allow the novel to move forward with less confusion.
Zak D 2
2/13/2014 12:44:13 pm
I agree with your point that the climax will come soon! With all of the information that was given in chapter six, we can expect a climax to happen very soon. Gatsby's life will be affected by this climax because it involves his love life with Daisy. Either he is happy with her, or he fails and everything that he has done to get her is considered wasted effort.
Amanna V (4)
2/13/2014 12:21:49 pm
Throughout the book, a lot is left up to interpretation of the reader. The reader has to infer a great amount using the hidden clues that Fitzgerald supplies within the chapters. However, in chapter 6, many of these inferences were proven to be either right or wrong. For example, an inference that was made in earlier chapters regarding Gatsby is that he lies immensely about events surrounding his life. The reader can infer this due to Gatsby's questionable experiences and constant stuttering/nervousness when he talks of these past events. In chapter 6, however, the inferences stop as his past is explained. "James Gatz-that was really, or at least legally, his name. He had changed it at the age of seventeen and at the specific moment that witnessed the beginning of this career-..." (Fitzgerald 98). Fitzgerald wanted the reader to carefully pay attention to the actions of the characters before knowing anything about them so the reader can form their own conclusions. If the fact that Gatsby became rich for Daisy was revealed in the first few chapters, then the characterization of Gatsby would have changed in our minds. We would view every action he takes is to find Daisy, when they really served another purpose and contained another small message about society in the 20's.
Hannah B P1
2/13/2014 12:24:12 pm
I feel like Chapter 6 really explores the reoccurring idea of social class, and its effects on the characters. When Gatsby vows to himself that he will do anything to attain wealth, it also symbolizes his desire to abandon his true lower-class identity and recast himself as the wealthy man he envisions. Tom also states that he thinks that Gatsby is a bootlegger, "I didn't hear it. I imagined it. A lot of these newly rich people are just big bootleggers, you know." (Fitzgerald 107). From their first meeting, Tom has always felt the need to be superior to Jay. He feels threatened by his wealth and fame, so he feels obliged to find a flaw within Gatsby. Daisy is another example of a person who is worried about social class because Jay thinks of her as the sweet girl who loved him in Louisville, when she is actually selfish. Gatsby was blinded by the reality that she would never desert her own class and background to be with him.
Becca K Period 4
2/15/2014 03:14:47 am
I like how you mention how Gatsby is doing everything to attempt to recast himself as the wealthy man he envisions. I think Chapter 6 really exemplifies this idea because it tells the story of how Gatsby changed his life and recreated himself as a wealthy man with the new name Jay Gatsby, "and to this conception he was faithful to the end" (Fitzgerald 98). I think you bring up a good point that Tom feels obliged to find flaw within Gatsby, and I think it foreshadows that he eventually will find a major flaw and make everyone aware of it. Also, I don't think Daisy is selfish neccesarily, but I believe she is foolish and has corrupted values. She grew up believing wealth was what defined you, and she has been taught not to stray from wealthy artistocrats that know how to socially act.
Hannah B P1
2/17/2014 06:45:53 am
Good point; I never thought of possible foreshadowing that may arise from Tom's suspicion with Jay. It may be what causes a trigger to the main climax within the many that are already occurring. Also, as I keep reading, my opinions over Daisy have changed and I see what you mean by foolish rather than selfish. At the time, I was just very frustrated with her indecisiveness to understand the true reason for her choice.
Jake S
2/13/2014 12:26:51 pm
Chapter 6 tied all of the loose ends together that had been created mostly by Gatsby’s fake past and fake ambitions. Although provided hints, the reader had no real way to know exactly where Gatsby gained his wealth or where he started but this information is now provided and it can now be judged why he was trying to cover up his past. Even if this lie is so much more satisfying that you would be willing to use all of your wealth to go back and change it. This is seen from Gatsby as he is desperately trying to convince himself that there is a way to go back and change the past. Where we once thought of Gatsby as this God-like figure that had all the wealth, charisma and friends in the world, we now begin to reconsider him with this new information provided. Ultimately Fitzgerald, by creating a very extravagant person on the surface but having serious issues underneath, shows the reader that anyone can look like they’re enjoying their life but their problems will ultimately catch up with them.
Casey D 4
2/13/2014 12:51:14 pm
I do not think that Gatsby's past and ambitions should be thought of as "fake". His motivation to be with Daisy and gain her love is very much real, and although his current life may be built on a past that is different than what he tells others, it does not necessarily make him a liar or his life any less real. Once James Gatz, "pulled out to the Tuolomee and informed Cody that a wind might catch him" (104), he became Jay Gatsby. He truly believes he is Gatsby, killing off the poor and unsuccessful James Gatz. So if someone believes that something is true, even if other people know it is false, does that make it any less real for that person?
Chris Q 1
2/17/2014 10:14:14 am
I agree with Casey on the fact that Gatsby's life is based on real goals. His new persona is fake, but everything else about him is real. I also think that Casey proposed an interesting question at the end.
Jake S
2/17/2014 12:06:07 pm
To answer your question Casey, yes. Even if James Gatz believes the false past that he made up to be real, that is irrelevant to it being a lie, and therefore fake. I stand by my use of the word "fake" to describe his past because despite him believing it, it is still not the truth. Although he still has the charisma, wealth and a love for Daisy, these things do not change his made up past.
Haley M period 4
2/13/2014 12:32:25 pm
In chapter 6 Gatsby's truthful past is revealed. The readers learn about how Gatsby became determined to win back daisy by building up his wealth. This is why Gatsby is considered "Great" in the title of the book because his ambitions are set so high and he try's his best to do anything to be happy with his only true love, Daisy. Gatsby and tom finally meet and Gatsby comes off as a little but ride to tom because he doesn't know how to talk to the old rich since his wealth was newly made. Tom notices that Daisy and Gatsby know each other and he thinks that there is something more than just old friends. He wants to "find our who he is and what he does" (Fitzgerald 111). Tom is going to start investigating into Gatsby and this might lead to problems for Gatsby and his plan to reconnect with Daisy.
Rachel VB (4)
2/16/2014 02:07:48 pm
I agree with you Haley. I think Gatsby is considered "great" because of his gain of wealth. He was determined to prove to Daisy that he was worth waiting for. He knew that if he got the money he would have a chance to be with her. Gatsby goes to extraordinary levels, like hosting multiple parties, just to have a chance to talk to the girl he loves.
Jen M. P1
2/13/2014 12:34:09 pm
At this point in the story, one does get the feeling that all of the bits of information gathered so far are finally coming together to create some sort of picture. We continue to learn more and more about Gatsby's past, things that weren't necessarily expected, but that fit into the story smoothly and ultimately make a lot of sense. It's as if we are Nick, when he watches Gatsby dancing with Daisy and is "surprised by his graceful, conservative fox-trot" (Fitzgerald 105). We have yet to see him dance until this point, but when he does, it just fits so naturally into his character; the same way these new revelations tie so well into the story. I think Fitzgerald is doing a wonderful job of exposing his ideas at the right times and in the right amounts.
Melissa S. (Period 2)
2/16/2014 10:50:55 am
I like the connection that you made to learning about Gatsby's personality. This chapter has definitely introduced background information about him that is beneficial to the overall understanding of the novel. Gatsby is what links the entire novel and all of the subplots together. But his character development in this chapter is really helping to develop the story.
DM 4
2/13/2014 12:35:30 pm
By this time in the novel, Fitzgerald has just created a mass amount of contradicting personalities. With Gatsby and his desire to recreate the past we can see the irony of him at the same time running from his actual past as James Gatz. He of course does all this in his attempts to impress Daisy who of course according to Tom, is running around to much. Again, Fitzgerald includes such contradiction into this statement as Tom is at the same time cheating on his wife openly. He does this to question our integrity as humans for throughout the novel he writes about our spiritual debasement and separation from what the modernists perceived to be good morals. It is clear that soon he will set up a breaking point for one of the characters and create a chain reaction to have all of the characters reveal their true selves and we will see if Gatsby's identity if James Gatz will become known to Daisy or if Tom will understand who it is Gatsby was before the war.
Ryan C p4
2/13/2014 12:36:04 pm
The chapter has one quote that goes along with the entire novel to this point: "who is this Gatsby anyhow?"(Fitzgerald 107). The true story of Gatsby is slowly starting to get pieces together as we figure out more about the real story of the enigma named Gatsby. What readers begin to see is a notion that correlates to real life, often times, you don't really know a person if you don't take the time to really get to know them
Casey D 4
2/13/2014 12:36:40 pm
Gatsby's life is in essence, the pursuit of the American dream. He reinvents himself, going from James Gatz to Jay Gatsby, "It was James Gatz who had been loafing along the beach...but it was already Jay Gatsby who borrowed a row-boat..." (104). This change in name marks a new shift in Gatsby's life. He dedicates himself to becoming a wealthy and successful man, going from poor to extremely rich, and what many people would define as living the American dream. He does this all for Daisy, in the hope that his new wealth and social stature will finally gain her love and eventually her hand in marriage. Gatsby starts to loose sight of reality however, and views money as a mean to all ends. He believes with enough money anything is possible, including persuading Daisy to divorce Tom. Additionally once Gatsby finally realizes his dream of being with Daisy again he effectively looses the ability to dream. Gatsby's whole life revolved around being with Daisy, so now when he has her, his life looses its meaning. Modernist at the time became disillusioned with the American Dream and Fitzgerald shows the flaws of the American Dream through Gatsby and his pursuit of Daisy. The idea of the American Dream is centered around the pursuit of a goal, whether it be wealth or love. But once this goal is achieved, a person's life looses significance as they no longer have anything to work towards.
Zak D 2
2/13/2014 12:40:52 pm
Chapter six reveals truths and gives answers to questions that anyone may have. Gatsby's shady past is being figured out and us readers understand that Gatsby is not the perfect person we think he is. The information that Fitzgerald gives us during this chapter will lead up to a climax that happens soon. Gatsby's life will change drastically after this climax. After this climax, all that Gatby has worked for will contribute to his happiness or it will be total devastation to him.
Daisy O. Period 4
2/14/2014 12:34:10 am
I like what you said about how in Chapter 6, readers see that Gatsby is not perfect. I think that by by knowning Gatsby is not perfect it allows readers to relate to him better. Gatsby is such a hopeful person that he wants to set himself to high standards "The truth was that Jay Gatsby, of West Egg, Long Island, sprang from his Platonic conception of himself" (77). He is trying to win Daisy back through hia wealth. He may not be perfect, but he jusy wants to be worthy of her. Gatsby wants Daisy to divorce Tom properly so they can be together, and he can start to have that perfect life that he has worked so hard to achieve.
Justin C Period 2
2/13/2014 12:41:04 pm
I think so far, this book does a fantastic job with all the descriptions and details it gives. Throughout the whole book, just enough detail is given about the topic to know what it is and somewhat relate, but at the same time it doesn't give you enough, you sort of have to infer part of it for yourself. I believe that was part of Fitzgerald's plan from the beginning. In the beginning of the book it says, " Whenever you feel like criticizing any one... Just remember that all the people in this world haven't had the same advantages that you've had"(1). This quote I feel sets one huge statement throughout the story. Fitzgerald is telling us to basically not judge a book by its cover, yet he wants us to infer and predict peoples' feelings and ideas.
Ambreen M. (Period 1)
2/13/2014 12:49:22 pm
In my opinion, this book has been beautifully written and is my all-time favorite book that we have read in class. The parties which are described and all the fabulous dresses make me wish I was a part of the 1920's era. Chapter six plays a huge role in the story because this is the part where the pieces of Daisy's life are put together as well as Gatsby's. When Tom sees a spark of connection between Gatsby and Daisy he comments saying, "women run around too much these days to suit me. They meet all kinds of crazy fish" (Fitzgerald 110). He is getting suspicious and jealous and is being two faced. He is commenting on how woman have no ethic and will meet with whoever when in reality he is the one cheating on his wife.
Anna W 1st
2/17/2014 12:55:15 pm
I agree with you, and this is one of my favorite books as well! This chapter gave us a lot of incite on Daisy and Gatsby, and we now know why they act a certain way, and how they came to be who they are today. I found it ironic that Tom said that women have no ethic, when he's the one that's sleeping around with a married woman. I think Fitzgerald was commenting on that also, the huge double standard that there was at the time.
Gilton C. P4
2/13/2014 12:50:42 pm
In chapter 6, Jay Gatsby’s past has arisen and is no longer a secret, although his acquisition of billions still is at this point. Gatsby or his government name of James Gatz is missing the years of his life between the death of Dan Cody and his current status. Daisy believes his revenue comes from a string of pharmacies stating; “He owned some drugstores, a lot of drugstores. He built them up himself.” Her evidence of that would be his wealth, but she is unaware of Gatz involvement with Wolfshiem which is no coincidence or anomaly. Any excuse James makes at this time about his money can be seen as a lie unless spoken to Nick privately and when speaking to nick about employment he only offers him a “confidential job”(chapter 5). There is no way Fitzgerald could write that James Gatz’s money has no connection to Wolfshiem without going back on chapters worth of an criminal set up. My only evidence is Wolfshiem’s existence in Gatsby’s life, his offering to Nick a secret job in chapter 5, and a job unclear with the rest of the public.
Yousuf A Period 5
2/16/2014 01:42:16 pm
I agree because Gatsby created an image of himself when he was younger. He became obsessed with that image, obsessed with becoming wealthy. I also agree with the mysterious parts in the novel, we never know what Gatsby and Daisy do when alone, we never know what Tom and Daisy say to each other, with Nick telling in 1st person, everything that Nick doesn't know is a blur.
Bri Dinsmoor P2
2/13/2014 12:50:43 pm
I feel like chapter 6 is a point where the reader finally understands what is going on. The reader finds out that the man in the picture on Gatsby's wall is James Gatz and he was the one who got Gatsby started with money. We also found out that Gatsby threw a party in order to impress Daisy, but it didn't work. So we know now that he intends to do everything he can to make things like they were when they were in love. This chapter finally ties together all of the confusing details, then combines them into one so that readers can easily see the connection.
Matt R
2/13/2014 10:30:14 pm
I think the man in the picture was actually Dan Cody and James Gatz is Gatsby but thats honest mistake. I do agree with you that Daisy was not impressed by the party; however, I think the reason for that is to show how Daisy is having a change. For a short while, she is no longer concerned about the money and life of glory, and says how she only enjoyed " the half-hour she'd been alone with Gatsby." Daisy now shows she is only concerned about the love this time. Whether she is able to hold on to this value will be determined later in the story.
Yousuf A Period 5
2/13/2014 12:50:53 pm
I feel like chapter uncovered and clarified the truths behind Gatsby. In the book it states, " The truth was that Jay Gatsby, of West Egg, Long Island, sprang from his Platonic conception of himself. He was a son of God—a phrase which, if it means anything, means just that—and he must be about His Father’s business, the service of a vast, vulgar, and meretricious beauty. So he invented just the sort of Jay Gatsby that a seventeen year old boy would be likely to invent, and to this conception he was faithful to the end." Gatsby followed and succeeded in fulfilling his dreams. We do know this much, however, Fitzgerald creates a series of mysteries that have yet to be solved. A key part of this mystery is the fact that Nick is telling the story fro his perspective so we do not the rationale of other characters.
Angel.A5
2/16/2014 06:20:47 am
I agree with you, Gatsby created an image of himself when he was younger. He became obsessed with that image, obsessed with becoming wealthy. I also agree with the mysterious parts in the novel, we never know what Gatsby and Daisy do when alone, we never know what Tom and Daisy say to each other, with Nick telling in 1st person, everything that Nick doesn't know is a blur.
Stefan Cefali Period 5
2/17/2014 01:04:30 pm
I agree with Angel's point of how Nick is telling is telling in the first person, but I do believe that what we can infer based on the information given by Nick can be considered a reliable source. I say this because of the type of character plays throughout the story. That character being the person that everyone trust and the person that everyone is willing to give the truth to.
Paula R. Period 5
2/13/2014 12:51:36 pm
Even though we have only 6 chapters of the book, I have already learned to love the novel. I especially loved the symbol abundant Chapter 5 where symbols referred to in the beginning of the novel were made more significant. In chapter 6, I think that the tables have turned for Tom and Gatsby and the novel is at, or is close to its climax. In this chapter there is uneasiness between Gatsby and Tom, and when Gatsby states to Tom that he "knew [his] wife... almost aggressively", it starts to create conflict between the two men (Fitzgerald 102). I think Fitzgerald is beginning to show the irony and truth of cheating in this chapter, when you cheat on your significant other and someone takes your place, then you want your lover back. Fitzgerald uses this chapter to create a conflict, that I think will become more significant as the novel progresses.
Shelby D 5
2/13/2014 12:52:27 pm
In chapter six, most of if not all the inconclusive opinions the reader has made, up to this point, are tied together. We understand the actions of many of the characters, especially Gatsby. We see Gatsby’s lies unfold and realize just how much he has done to try to regain Daisy’s love. He creates a new image of himself “and to this conception he was faithful to the end” (Fitzgerald 80). This idea of Gatsby doing whatever it takes to get Daisy in not a new concept for the reader; however, this idea does lead right into the climax. The readers are now curious as to what the outcome will be. So far, I have very much enjoyed how Fitzgerald wrote “The Great Gatsby”. It allows for readers to have some freedoms in opinion, but it does not completely allow this because Fitzgerald does tie up most of the needed loose ends within chapter six.
Elainie K 1
2/13/2014 12:54:16 pm
Chapter 6 of "The Great Gatsby" is beginning to reign in all the different interpretations of what we have been provided with thus far. Fitzgerald includes all this information which I believe will lead up to the climax of the novel. One main point Fitzgerald continues to expand on is the characterization of Gatsby. At the beginning of the novel, Nick has vaguely mentioned Gatsby, but he states, "if personality is an unbroken series of successful gestures, then there was something gorgeous about him... a romantic readiness such as I have never found in any other person and which is not likely I shall ever find again" (Fitzgerald 2). This statement occurs in the beginning of the novel, creating ambiguity of who Gatsby is. As the story progresses, we are revealed with more and more information about Gatsby and we are able to see his true intentions and feelings. With the continuous progression of Gatsby's characterization, the plot is really starting to fall into place.
Paula R. Period 5
2/16/2014 11:58:59 am
I agree with you, Elainie, I think that Chapter 6 is leading up to the climax and is certainly not the climax itself. I also agree with you that this chapter allows us to learn more about Gatsby. We learn that he was not born wealthy and that he began to work toward wealth when Ella stole Gatsby's inheritance. This is also not the climax of the novel because Tom and Gatsby have yet to talk about their relationships with Daisy and have just simply met, so yes, I agree that the plot is still progressing.
Chris B 5
2/16/2014 01:15:57 pm
I agree I believe that chapter 6 is very much the beginning of the end of the novel. Fitzgerald basically sets the book up at this point for the climax.
Daisy O. Period 4
2/13/2014 12:55:49 pm
Chapter six closes many gaps for readers. The truth about Gatsby’s past helps readers to trust him more and understand him better. He is extremely hopeful, and readers see this after Nick tells Gatsby that he cannot repeat the past. “‘Cannot repeat the past?’ [Gatsby] cried incredulously. ‘Why of course you can!’” (87). Readers can start to understand why Nick admires Gatsby so much. I think that at this point in the book, Fitzgerald has created Gatsby as a Christ-like figure. Gatsby has just as much money as Tom Buchanan, but is not accepted because he is “new money” while Tom is “old money.” Fitzgerald shows the contrast between the two eggs in chapter six to show how money is not the only thing that one needs to be successful in life.
Elainie K 1
2/16/2014 12:42:32 pm
I agree with you Daisy! I like that you brought up the two eggs, as they are a very important recurring symbol in the novel. Fitzgerald uses the East and West eggs to further characterize people in the story and I believe he does an excellent job in representing the social/financial standings of Tom and Gatsby.
Jesse S. Period 4
2/17/2014 10:30:43 am
I would definatley agree with you Daisy about your statement of how Gatsby is portrayed as a "christ-like figure". People are envious of Gatsby and seek his wealth and attention. However, to Gatsby is wealth doesn't really mean much to him. His whole luxurious lifestyle, though succesful, failed to capture the attention of his true love Daisy. Daisy is meaningful to him, while the wide array of people that attend his festivites are meaningless. I was fond of your choice for qoutes Tom being "old money and Gatsby being "new money", where it certainly displays quite the difference between the two character that Fitzgerald intended to promote.
Alayna D. Period 1
2/13/2014 01:00:44 pm
In chapter six it explores the social class and how it relates to Gatsby. Nick’s description of Gatsby’s early life reveals the sensitivity to status that spurs Gatsby on. His background of having to work as a janitor in college contradicts with the promise that he experiences when he meets Dan Cody, who represents the attainment of everything that Gatsby wants. He became obsessed with wealth and the lifestyle outside of the poverty that he once had to go through. As is true throughout the book, Gatsby’s power to make his dreams real is what makes him “great.” In this chapter, it becomes clear that his most powerfully realized dream is his own identity, his sense of self. Gatsby’s conception of Daisy is itself a dream. He blinds himself to the fact that Daisy is married now and obviously loves Tom, and the social class she is in.
Mackenzie K. period 1
2/17/2014 03:43:09 am
I agree with you and what you said about how that makes him great. He has basically dedicated the rest of his life to gaining back Daisy's love. He does not care that Daisy is married and might love Tom. He has convinced himself that he and Daisy will be together in the end and that is all he cares about now. I agree with you in that that is what makes him great.
Scott A 5th
2/13/2014 01:02:14 pm
I think that chapter six solved some of the mysteries of Jay Gastby. Fitzgerald revealed that he was not a wealthy individual all of his life, instead he was an average guy that got involved in "illegal" business to prosper economically. In the book it states, "he was a son of God—a phrase which, if it means anything, means just that—and he must be about His Father’s business, the service of a vast, vulgar, and meretricious beauty. So he invented just the sort of Jay Gatsby that a seventeen year old boy would be likely to invent, and to this conception he was faithful to the end." Gatsby created himself the moment he met Cody. He painted a picture of who he wanted to be and set out to achieve his goal. He did what he had to do which resulted in unmoral business to gain wealth. Chapter six solves some mysteries and creates new ones. What business is he involved in?
Gillian C. Period 2
2/13/2014 01:06:21 pm
Chapter six sheds some light on the former life of Jay Gatsby, or more specifically, James Gatz. We learn that after Gatsby loses Daisy, he makes it his main goal in life to become a wealthy and successful man. By gaining this wealth, he hoped that it would someday bring Daisy back to him. We have yet to discover if Gatsby's plan worked, leaving us with the question of whether or not Daisy will leave Tom and return to her true love, or if Daisy will continue with her wealthy, yet unhappy lifestyle.
Carissa C. P4
2/16/2014 10:43:31 am
I agree with you Gillian and how Daisy's decision seems to be a loose end. I feel that the decision will be a good plotline and entail a lot of twists and turns regarding Tom, Daisy, and Gatsby. Gatsby wants to completely escape his old life and the humiliation he faced in addition to hoping to get Daisy back.
Rachel VB (4)
2/13/2014 01:10:21 pm
After reading chapter six, I predict that the climax will occur very soon.In this chapter the audience learns about Gatsby’s true story and realize how badly he wants Daisy to love him. “Dan Cody… had been coasting along all too hospitable shores for five years when he turned up as James Gatz’s destiny in Little Girl Bay… To Young Gatz… that yacht represented all the beauty and glamour in the world” (Fitzgerald 102). It is revealed how Gatsby truly earned his wealth and why he did what he did. He wanted to prove to Daisy that he had a lot of money and they belonged together. After the confrontation between Gatsby and Tom, Tom begins to become aware of Gatsby’s plan. This brings the story to the point of where something will go wrong!
Andrea B 2
2/13/2014 01:11:09 pm
Chapter 6 has kind of been the chapter where you know the 'bad part' is coming, but you need it to move on further in the book to find out more information. I think at this point in the story, something bad is going to happen. I feel like the events so far have kind of just, made sense. There's going to be something extremely dramatic approaching. I think that there will probably be a very bad argument between Tom and "James Gatz" especially because now Tom knows that there is a romance there. I also think sometime in the story, Daisy is going to turn from Gatsby and try going for Nick. Also, we finally find out the real background of Jay Gatsby, that he was influenced by a man that took him under his wing and let Jay work for him. That was his role model in order to obtain all this money and to live a luxurious life. But money will never by happiness, since Daisy is in reality torn between two rich men.
Kevin H P4
2/13/2014 01:12:19 pm
At this point in the story Fitzgerald has created a situation that allows the reader to look at various issues, from the newly secular lifestyle lead by the people of that time into the moral corruption in day to day life. At the beginning of chapter four it says "church bells rang in the villages alongshore, the world and its mistress returned to Gatsby's house and twinkled hilariously on his lawn" (61). This shows how the people have stopped placing as much worth in the practice of religion. It is also displaying the moral corruption in relationships through Tom and Daisy, and I think what Fitzgerald is trying to show through their relationship is that everything is not going to be happy and great. Because they are both miserable in that relationship, however to some degree they are both still in love with each other. I think that this is interesting and it is very relatable to real life in the sense that everything within a relationship is not going to go as planned. There are a lot of issues that you run into, like when your girlfriend has been married for four years and has a child, but you just kind of have to work past those little details so that you can be truly happy.
TJ A.
2/17/2014 12:04:16 pm
" like when your girlfriend has been married for four years and has a child"
Gatsby sure keeps it interesting.
But besides that I have a question about your second point. You said that Fitzgerald shows moral corruption through Tom and Daisy's relationship, but my problem with that statement is that the moral corruption in that relationship from the standpoint of u[ to ch.6 is a one-way street. Yes, Daisy is cheating on Tom as well but it is Tom who is portrayed as the hypocritical, old fashioned, arrogant rich guy.
Anna W. 1st
2/13/2014 01:17:09 pm
These last few chapters have been very insightful. They've answered a lot of questions about the characters, and shown us how these characters have come to be the way they are, and some information on why they might act the way they do. In chapter 6, a lot about Gatsby's character is revealed, and he has this whole "American Dream" lifestyle going on, and it's amazing that he still went through so much for a girl that doesn't even love him as much as she might love his money. At this point, I feel that Fitzgerald has created a piece that forces people think. He has these obvious symbols, and character traits in characters like Daisy and Gatsby that could parallel his views on society, yet I feel that there's something more about this book that draws so many to it. I can't pinpoint exactly what it is but the book seems so simple, yet within it there's so much complexity that still makes it easy to relate to, even today.
Joe S. Period 1
2/17/2014 06:46:04 am
I agree with what you are saying Anna. I like how you said that Fitzgerald makes us think and how you connect the views Fitzgerald may have with society. The book is also complex through the occurrences and what hey actually mean. The book is full of examples that portray moral decay, the ruining of the american dream, and conflict in peoples' lives. I think that the eyes of T.J. Eckleburg stand for the watching of the ruining in values of the american dream. "Over the ashheaps the giant eyes of Doctor T.J. Eckleburg kept their vigil"(Fitzgerald 124). In my opinion this quote stands for the little hurt the characters are adding to the american society.
TJ A. period 2
2/13/2014 01:20:36 pm
I think I am starting to understand why this book is still praised and talked about even today.One thing that I think Fitzgerald has created (because this book can be many things) is a classic conflict of new vs. old. Tom's more of the old fashioned, arrogant, simple-minded yet hypocritical rich person that many people see when they envision the bourgeois. On the contrary, Gatsby is the wealthy person that people like, the fresh ambitious man driven by selfless love and believes we can restore what's lost. Just as Nick like Gatsby, Fitzgerald gets readers to like Gatsby's new way of thinking as kind of a statement about the upper class. This feeds the books sense of pathos and impact on society.
TJ A.
2/13/2014 01:24:05 pm
EDIT: ... On the contrary, Gatsby is the wealthy person that people like, the fresh ambitious man who once had a mind, "like the mind of God"(Fitzgerald 116), but is now driven by selfless love and believes we can restore what's lost. Just as Nick like Gatsby, Fitzgerald gets readers to like Gatsby's new way of thinking as kind of a statement about the upper class. This feeds the books sense of pathos and impact on society.
Caleb S, Period 5
2/13/2014 01:45:45 pm
Same here TJ. When I first started the novel I did not understand why this book was considered to the greatest American novel ever written. But as I keep reading and understanding I begin to realize why. I like when you said that what Fitzgerald created was a classic conflict of new vs. old. And I completely agree with you when you said that this book can be many things, because I think when we are beginning to form or opinions on the characters it depends on our own life experiences. How we have grown to view things as right and wrong, and things that we think are moral and unmoral.
Ryan C p4
2/17/2014 02:23:11 am
TJ. I agree with the conflict of new and old. I also think that it is a perfect example of the American dream as well. Gatsby started with little money, and was not born into a wealthy family but ended up working hard and becoming a billionaire (we're still not 100 percent sure how he did at this point). He is now a prominent New Yorker who has more money than he knows what to do with
Stefan C. Per.5
2/13/2014 01:23:02 pm
The novel up through chapter 6, in my opinion, this is no doubt my favorite book that we have read throughout the year. And what Fitzgerald does in chapter 6 is create a different way we look at most of the characters, and thats another reason why i think the book is so good. Fitzgerald has changed my viewpoint on different characters multiple times. Gatsby for example, was one character that my view point has changed on because, in chapter 6 we realize that he has lied all about his past and how he got all of his wealth, which makes me feel some sort of dishonor in how he got all of his money. But in the previous chapter Fitzgerald makes me feel somewhat sympathetic towards Gatsby, because of his predicament that he is in with Daisy. All of the characters are very dynamic to the readers in there own way, and this begins to close gaps in chapter 6.
Caleb S, Period 5
2/13/2014 01:29:46 pm
Chapter 6 in The Great Gatsby is when the novel come together and reveals things. Things like Gatsby’s life and all the things he desires for Daisy. When Gatsby was at Daisy’s house he says to Tom in an aggressive tone “I know you wife” (Fitzgerald Ch. 6). Gatsby wants to take Daisy away from Tom and after all that Tom starts to believe that “women run around too much these days to suit me. They meet all kinds of crazy fish” (Fitzgerald 110). Tom kind of begins to feel threatened by Gatsby. Which for some reason I think that was Gatsby plan from the beginning, to make Tom feel inferior about his relationship with Daisy because it will make it easier to take her from him. Which again brings in the fact that Gatsby was doing whatever he needed to do to become rich. He was determined to win Daisy back, which could bring in a significant symbol, the clock. And how it represents the time that has passed while Gatsby has been getting rich to get Daisy back. I feel as is all the pieces in the giant puzzle are starting to come together but all for this huge unveil at the end of the novel.
Jesse S. P.4
2/13/2014 01:30:44 pm
The true back story of Gatsby's life comes into play in this chapter. Gatsby was envious of the wealthy and luxorious lifestlye, as it constantly reminded him of his poverty. Demonstrating the efforts made by Gatsby in order to become that wealthy man he had envisioned as a child. Daisy's effortless act of how wealth and luxury came to her so effortlessly is what draws Gatsby's attention to her. His ability to obtain all the things he ever wanted is certainly a reason why Gatsby is extremely intersted in her.
Shelby D 5
2/16/2014 11:20:35 am
I agree that the story of Gatsby’s life does shed some light on the action he’s taken and the motivation he has. However, I don’t agree it is because of Daisy’s effortless act of receiving wealth and luxuries that Gatsby is so greatly attracted to her. I believe that from the details given Gatsby’s desire for Daisy has nothing to do with money, it has to do with actual love. This I believe is prominent when it is described how Gatsby’s “heart beat faster and faster as Daisy’s white face came up to his own” (Fitzgerald 91). So, therefore, I think Gatsby's ability to obtain all the things he ever wanted is not what led him to Daisy; but, it was his desire for Daisy that led him to gain the wealth and luxuries he did.
Elizabeth Z 2
2/13/2014 01:34:53 pm
The way that Fitgerald writes the novel is unlike any other novel that I have read. At the beginning, it seems like it will be a story about Nick and his time in new York as the highlight of the whole book. However, once you get to chapter six, it is quite obvious that it is actually a story about Gatsby's life. Even the at that he choose to write the story is different. With his careful timing of the reveal of certain details to the reader, Fitzgerald makes itfeel as if the reader is meeting Gatsby in person, as well. This method catches the reader off guard, but at the same time, fits perfectly with the way that the story begins.
Kathryn P P2
2/16/2014 11:46:19 am
I too find that the novel's plotline is structured differently, which I like. This is probably why it is a classic literature and phenomenon. The way Fitzgerald sets it up, revealing details at the correct times, definitely defines it as a modernism piece.
Trevor K 4
2/13/2014 01:36:08 pm
Chapter 6 of the Great Gatsby provides so much for the reader. Fitzgerald is commenting on so much in society. I really took notice to how Tom was disturbed about Gatsby knowing Daisy. It was ironic and hypocritical that Tom became so angry as he says, "I may be old-fashioned in my ideas, but women run around too much these days to suit me" (103). Fitzgerald is making a comment on the ignorance of mankind and how women are treated unfairly. He uses a character who "runs around" regularly to make a statement about how women do the same. He is advocating for more fair treatment of women in a time when it was not accustomed. Gatsby's comment on the past is also one of great value. Nick says, "[Gatsby] talked a lot about the past, and I had gathered that he wanted to recover something, some idea of himself perhaps, that had gone into loving Daisy. Fitzgerald is trying to make the point that humans look back at the past and try to capture what they previously had, instead of living in the present creating feelings that aren't artificial and are natural. He seems to be doing what he thinks Daisy will like, instead of being himself, which was what sprung the Iove in the first place. The Great Gatsby is a novel that comments on so many different issues in society. All of these problems coexisting, and the fact that we know Nick leaves New York, creates much suspense and tension for what will happen between Tom, Gatsby, and Daisy. I also believe that there is still more to the relationship between Nick and Jordan because of the fact that Nick leaves.
Lyssa L p4
2/13/2014 01:42:50 pm
Chapter 6 is a very intriguing chapter. There's a few connections to the real world that I had extracted from the chapter. Like so many who sought and achieved the American Dream during the Roaring Twenties, Gatsby is a self-made man. He literally created himself, even changing his name in order to become a "success." Gatsby's story is not as unique as all the rumors about him suggest. Instead, he represents someone of the rags-to-riches class. I enjoy the suspense of Fitzgerald in having so many questions building in the first four chapters needing to be answered, and touching so incredibly on the details in revealing so much about Gatsby's life in Chapters 5 and 6. I'm excited to see what obstacles Daisy and Gatsby work through if any to recreate their love.
Alexis Blackmon
2/17/2014 11:13:34 am
I agree, I think real world lessons that can be applied to today's time can be seen through Gatsby's life and how others respond to him. Many aspects of this story remind me of the poem we read in class," Richard Cory". Many people want to assume things about Gatsby without really knowing him on a personal level. Many people want to assume the worst about Gatsby, such as the women who stand outside his house and say things such as ,"He's a bootlegger, one time he killed a man that found out he was a nephew to von Hindenburg and second cousin to the devil". (Fitzgerald 65), but now it seems that everything is coming to unfold.
Josh S. 5
2/13/2014 01:55:27 pm
At this point of the story, I believe that things are just starting to come together as a whole. We are starting to learn the true characters and their motives and this leads to a beginning development of theme. From chapter 6, the reader learns that all Gatsby (or Jay) wants in life is to become successful because he was so caught up to his appearance for others. This is actually an explanation for why he wants Daisy so much. She basically represents wealth, as she was naturally wealthy and born into her wealth. Gatsby had to work into his wealth and for that reason he is still not considered to be at the same social level as Tom or Daisy. It was explained that "the truth was that Jay Gatsby, of West Egg, Long Island, sprang from his Platonic conception of himself." Platonic meaning just a theory and not an actual practical action. He wanted to be this huge figure and in reality he's just a criminal.
Ashlee P. 5
2/17/2014 04:29:53 am
I agree with you that one of Gatsby's major life goals is to become wealthy, but i don't think it is just for appearances. Gatsby isn't just well off or rich. He has a mind blowing amount of wealth, and he needed that wealth in order to be on the level of Tom, but it is obvious that he has surpassed him. I think he needed the money to throw the parties for Daisy, and i think he wanted Daisy because he did love her and not just because she has money too.
Kathryn P P2
2/13/2014 01:57:14 pm
Personally, I don't mind the book. It's not one of my favorites, but I do like some of the conflicts and backgrounds between the characters. I also like the suspense Fitzgerald puts into the novel, because by leading us in different directions as to who some characters are and how they interact with each other.
Kathryn P P2
2/13/2014 02:00:18 pm
I forgot to add that the novel's plotline is similar to a movie flashback and that Fitzgerald set it up this way in order for us to understand where Nick, the narrator, is now and why he understands the quote at the beginning of the book about not criticizing others based on what they have now.
James Jones P:2
2/13/2014 01:57:53 pm
One of my favorite pieces of this book is its flow. Fitzgerald smoothly transitions between sentences and paragraphs giving the novel an addictive rhythm that entices the reader. As for chapter 6 the key revelation for me was that Gatsby is not only in love with Daisy, but is obsessed with her. This is revealed to the reader when Gatsby says, "I'm going to fix everything just the way it was before. . .she'll see" (Fitzgerald 110), which shows the reader that Gatsby wants to create his old life with Daisy. If Gatsby only loved Daisy, he wouldn't mind starting a new life with her. However, the fact that he wants to recreate his past with Daisy, instead of realize that she's changed, shows Gatsby's border line un-healthy obsession with Daisy.
Harshita K 1
2/14/2014 07:11:32 am
I agree with you that Gatsby may have strong feelings toward Daisy but I don't believe he is obsessed with her I just think that he is obsessed with the idea of turning the clock and return to way things used to be. What Gatsby feels for Daisy adds to Fitzgerald idea about achieving his dreams being achieved. In addition to this is that there is still so much that should be revealed to the reader and maybe he has his reasons for being obsessed. He is saving Daisy from her cheating boyfriend Tom by giving her what she really deserves. When Tom was at Daisy's place, Gatsby was just supporting daisy and helping her. She told Tom that she "never loved [him]"(109). She doesn't even want Tom. I just feel like there is more to this love story besides the love part.
Jelani P
2/16/2014 11:54:07 am
Throughout the novel, we see Gatsby as a normally calm and collected gentlemen, but as soon as he and Daisy are reunited we see a change. Suddenly he becomes frantic and jittery. His obsession over perfecting every thing at the party and when she visits his house earlier shows his true feelings over Daisy and how the past must have been with her. His obsession with the past gives him hope that he will be able to recreate it as he says towards the end of chapter six.
Jelani P 2
2/13/2014 01:59:01 pm
I think at this point, the book is in a place were its outcome has do many possibilities. Gatsby's deep love or even obsession for Daisy is starting to catch the attention of Tom. Because of his violent history, the story could escalate. He is even at the point where he is almost jealous, "A lot of these newly rich people are just big bootleggers," (Fitzgerald 107). Upon first meeting him, Tom shows his dislike for Gatsby and its almost inevitable to lead to problems later. Fitzgerald has created an ultimate point of suspense in the novel and a little over half way through the book, the reader can only read on to unravel the drama the book has built up.
James J:2
2/16/2014 12:18:19 pm
I agree with you that a rivalry forms between Gatsby and Tom during chapter six. Gatsby hates Tom because he "stole" Daisy from him and is keeping Gatsby from realizing his dream. However, in chapter 6, Tom does not know about Daisy's affair with Gatsby, which keeps him from hating Gatsby as much as Gatsby hates him. It is in chapter six that both men begin to research each other: Tom, by digging into Gatsby's past, and Gatsby, by inviting Tom to his house and watching his behavior. This can be seen during Gatsby's party, when Gatsby tests Tom by referring to him as the polo player even when Tom asks him not to.
Alexis B. Period 1
2/13/2014 01:59:23 pm
All the loose ends are tied up in chapter 6, and all the relationships between the characters seem to be fully developed. Gatsby, a once mysterious character in the novel, can be finally figured out. His past character, where he got his money, and even his love life come alive in chapter 6. It shows his true personality and the passion and love he has for Daisy. I believe that when Fitzgerald says, "women run around too much these days to suit me. They meet all kinds of crazy fish”, he is referencing daisy, and the crazy fish is Tom. this chapter has opened up many opportunities for the characters especially Daisy and Gatsby.
Brenda N. 4
2/13/2014 02:01:27 pm
I find that in this chapter, readers are more exposed to the difference between Gatsby's lies and truths. We are able to distinguish the man he wants to be for Daisy verses the man he was when Gatsby, "invented just the sort of Jay Gatsby that a seventeen year old boy would be likely to invent, and to this conception he was faithful to the end" (98). We realize Fitzgerald created Gatsby as a man who takes charge of his life the way he wants to passionately and it continues to be proved so through Gatsby's attitude toward Tom.
Elizabeth Z 2
2/14/2014 06:15:54 am
I agree with what you said about someone ambiguity being sorted out. In additn, there is also a little more that is yet to be revealed to the reader. For example, we still do not know exactly how Gatsby got so much money. At one point, Nick asks Gatsby what business he is in, to which Gatsby respond vaguely, "Oh, I've been in several things... I ease in the drug business and then I was in the oil business. But I'm not in either one now" (Fitzgerald 90). To this point, it remains foggy as to what exactly is going on. As the story continues, more information is given, but I doubt that it will ever be expressly admitted in the novel.
Brenda N. 4
2/16/2014 12:31:03 pm
I agree that the story would not openly admit that Gatsby was in any sort of shady business, but I feel that there is enough hints to say that he does. The reference to the drug business and he quick money Gatsby is offering Nick gives off a lot of that sort of appeal. I think the fortune Gatsby possess is way too much for the parties he has every night. It feels like he could have worked for it as an honest man, but half the fortune could have been underhanded as well.
Brandon K 4
2/13/2014 02:04:07 pm
Chapter 6 is definitely used as a point to clear up and bring parts of the book together to reinforce recent ideas as well as set up for the upcoming parts in the novel. One of the important parts of these revelations is that "he invented just the sort of Jay Gatsby that a seventeen-year-old boy would be likely to invent, and to this conception he was faithful to the end" (Fitzgerald 98).Using his imagination and massive ambition Gatsby was able to create a new identity to give himself a bigger and better start.So this is undeniably used to give more perspective on Gatsby himself through his background, but it also reveals a lot about his intentions. These intentions are based around Daisy and what he wants to get out of her. In the story it says how he"wanted nothing less of Daisy than that she should go to Tom and say: 'I never loved you'" (Fitzgerald 109). This shows precisely that Gatsby wants nothing else other than Daisy's true lover and partner. These confirmations and backgrounds bring the full 6 chapters into a big swirling cauldron of ideas.. All of the themes,symbols,etc. are starting to come together and mix really setting up for what is to come in the story.
Paula R. Period 5
2/16/2014 11:43:34 am
When Dr. T.J. Eckleburg's eyes reoccur in this chapter, I think it signifies a loss in morals and values. As observed in Chapter 2, Dr. Eckleburg's eyes were associated with those of a godly figure watching over everyone. In Chapter 2, Tom also revealed his mistress, Myrtle and it is known that adultery is a sin. In chapter 6, "the eyes of Doctor T.J. Eckleburg kept their vigil", vigil meaning the eyes were wary and paying attention (Fitzgerald 124). I think that whenever Dr. Eckleburg's eyes are mentioned it foreshadows an event where a sin occurs. In chapter 6, Tom officially learns of Gatsby and Daisy, Tom reveals some insight on how Gatsby actually earns his money and Daisy runs over Myrtle, all of which are sins.
Paula R.
2/16/2014 11:44:31 am
Sorry, I meant to post this on Chapter 7 blog!
Costa D (period 2)
2/16/2014 10:10:03 pm
Chapter 6 marks the point where mysteries become understandings and we see Gatsby in a different light. It is now known to us why Gatsby became rich and the possible connections to why he loves Daisy so much as to buy a residence across from her home. Daisy fell in the hands of a lot of money mainly because she was introduced to rich men by her parents. Gatsby feels that true love cannot equate to money, it equals much more. He tries to get her back with true love but also feels he must be of Tom's rich caliber to even be considered. That is why Gatsby became rich after the war. It is evident that Tom does not love Daisy as much as Gatsby, so he has more leverage.
Ashlee P. 5
2/17/2014 04:23:12 am
In chapter 6 the lies that Gatsby has told about his past are finally verified and the reader learns of Gatsby's humble upbringings . He was actually born James Gatz on a North Dakota farm and was very poor and only when he began to travel with Dan Cody did he first see a life of wealth and luxury. After reading this for the second time, what i see as the most important part of this chapter in bringing the story full circle, is Gatsby's similarities to George Wilson. George isn't wealthy and he understands the value of hard work like Gatsby and unlike Tom. For me, I don't feel bad about Gatsby trying to take Daisy away from Tom because of how Tom treated George Wilson.
Andrea C. 2
2/17/2014 05:53:21 am
I totally understand your viewpoint of Jay's upbringing and how that affected his relationship with Daisy. I never thought about comparing Gatsby to Wilson, but I now realize that there is a connection between them. Tom mistreated Daisy and he came from such a lavish lifestyle. Jay Gatsby grew up with nothing and understood the weight of his success. Wilson and Gatsby have a similar work ethic, despite their money earnings.
Morganne J p.5
2/17/2014 08:50:58 am
In a single word, Fitzgerald has created this chapter to be a masterpiece. Up until this point in the novel, many details and secrets have been hidden from the readers in order to keep the plot strong. Chapter six however is the oblivious chapter that paints a finished picture for us and finally keys in on missing points. The truth behind Jay Gatsby, the way that Jay and Daisy knew one another, and the reasoning behind everything that Gatsby does are all revealed to us in this chapter. All along, we’ve known Gatsby to be someone completely different and now it is learned that this story is in fact one of his many life journeys. It started when James Gatz was, “at the age of seventeen and at the specific moment that witnessed the beginning of his career—when he saw Dan Cody’s yacht drop anchor over the most insidious flat on Lake Superior” (Fitzgerald 98). From this detail forward, Gatsby has been a liar, thief, scandal, and lonely lover, in hope to fill the hole in his heart with Daisy Buchanan.
Imani B. 5
2/17/2014 09:29:37 am
I also think the chapter reveals many of the mysteries that have been thought about since the beginning of the novel. The first 5 chapters basically set up who the characters were without giving much background information on them, especially Gatsby. We finally get the background information on him that we have been searching for throughout the novel. We understand why he thinks he needs to prove himself to other people, why he can't tell other people about his past, and why Daisy didn't end up marrying him. I think the tension between Gatsby and Tom is going to erupt later on in the novel because of Daisy. Especially when Tom states, "you can't recreate the past." which is really all Gatsby is trying to do, with Daisy.
Rose A Period 4
2/17/2014 01:16:25 pm
Chapter 6 was mainly about Gatsby's want to pursue his dream. " The truth was that Jay Gatsby, of West Egg, Long Island, sprang from his Platonic conception of himself. He was a son of God—a phrase which, if it means anything, means just that—and he must be about His Father’s business, the service of a vast, vulgar, and meretricious beauty. So he invented just the sort of Jay Gatsby that a seventeen year old boy would be likely to invent, and to this conception he was faithful to the end."Gatsby wanted to chase for his dream for once and go after it. All together Fitzgerald created a combination of mysteries to be further solved in the book. At this point in the novel, these 'mysteries' are starting to be identified by our predictions and inferences.
Richard Webb Period 6
2/23/2014 10:26:58 am
The main purpose of chapter 6 was to go futher in depth into Gatsby's past while addressing the rumors that have surfaced about him. I like how Fitzgerald implemented this information on Gatsby into the story because it allows the readers to further understand Gatsby's ealier years of his life and how they relate to his current situation. Gatsby set a goal for himself to become rich and succesful. A goal in which he has achieved. However, he is is not satisfied with his life. Nick addressed Gatsby saying, "You can't repeat the past" (Fitzgerald 110). This shows how desperate Gatsby still is to recreate his relatioship with Daisy from five years ago.
Mahia Patel - Per. 1
2/24/2014 10:05:01 am
I am really enjoying the novel so far. I think that it started out as being very mysterious, and since the first chapter, so much has been revealed. I think it is at the perfect point right now where readers have been given information, but there is still so much to reveal. In Chapter 6, "Daisy and Gatsby danced" (Fitzgerald 105). I enjoyed seeing Daisy and Gatsby connect. I have also enjoyed Nick Carraway's character so far.
Renick W. 1
2/24/2014 11:44:27 am
I liked the book so far, it is a really thought provoking and enjoyable book. I want to know what happens next between Gatsby and Tom. I want to know if they'll fight or completely avoid each other. I think Gatsby introducing Tom as the Polo player (Fitzgerald 105) is kind of a shot at Tom and Tom trying to convince the others that Gatsby is a bad person is a jab right back.
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