Choose any of the symbols from chapter five and explain its meaning both within the chapter and the text as a whole. Be sure to connect it to a specific character or theme of the novel.
Kelsey J 1
2/11/2014 05:57:28 am
One of the symbols I have found in chapter five is the clock. In the book Gatsby is said to have " turned and caught it with trembling fingers and set it back in place" (Fitzgerald 69). It is very clear at this point that Gatsby has wanted to stop time and go back to being with Daisy before she gets married. All this time it had seemed as if he would never get to meet Daisy. Yet, in this moment Gatsby is able to save the clock and keep it from shattering. This may prove that Daisy and him still have time yet to make things work out. The fact that the clock is already broken and no longer works may show that Gatsby has been able to, after all these years, stop time if only for a cup of tea with Daisy.
Emma S. 2
2/12/2014 04:59:15 am
I completely agree with you Kelsey about the clock symbolizing time and how Gatsby wanted to go back to fix what happened with Daisy. He saved the clock from stopping time so he could continue to watch Daisy and hopefully have a life with her.
Dong L. Period 5
2/12/2014 08:07:20 am
I also agree with you Kelsey since the reason why Gatsby is always impatient is that he hates worrying about time and how things will work out just as he can make up the loss time of not being with Daisy for five years.
Casey D
2/12/2014 12:22:07 pm
I disagree with you that the clock represents Gatsby's wish to go back in time before Daisy was married. I think the clock instead symbolizes all the time Gatsby used up amassing a fortune only to finally meet Daisy five years later. Up until the point Gatsby meets Daisy again he lives in a fantasy world, with all his aspirations focused on creating the perfect moment for meeting Daisy. Nick comments that Gatsby had, "thrown himself into it with a creative passion, decking it out with every bright feather that drifted his way" (101). Now five years later he realizes that he wasted all that time lusting over Daisy when he should have been interacting with her. His vision of Daisy became larger than life, becoming more grand than Daisy in real life.
Tyler Kol. 5
2/13/2014 11:06:44 am
I disagree with you Casey. I believe the clock represents the continuation of time within their relationship. For Gatsby, these five years, although dreadful, must have passed quickly as he attempted to achieve a status of high wealth. The very reason, in which he searches for this wealth, is in order to impress Daisy and win her back. This being true, those five years in which Gatsby waits, seems as if no noticeable time passes. The symbol of time stopping is also used when daisy and Gatsby finally meet, and the encounter is so awkward that readers can feel the tension in the air. At this moment, Gatsby catches the clock as it falls, holding onto the symbolic element of stopped time. This pause once again proves that the clock is symbolic for a pause in time, rather than a long passage of time.
Kelly B P1
2/13/2014 11:08:16 am
I completely agree that the clock is the main symbol throughout this chapter. However I think that the clock being broken is symbolizing the past 5 years that the two have not seen each other. Gatsby has waited all of these years only wanting to see her yet always falling short. I think by Gatsby catching the clock in front of Daisy symbolizes Gatsby always waiting in the wings for her. He is there to catch her when she's ready to fall back into his life. And him catching the clock is showing her that no measure of time will ever be enough for his love towards her.
DM 4
2/13/2014 12:17:25 pm
I would have to agree with Casey more or less on this as it seems to me that Gatsby is holding into something that is beyond repair. The clock is Gatsby's single motivation for living and must hold on to it as much as possible although it's broken and beyond repair. The fact if the matter is that with the way that Fitzgerald writes chapter 5, he creates an incredibly uncomfortable and awkward atmosphere to represent the fact that relations between Daisy and Gatsby can never truly be the same for Daisy is only a shell of what she used to be and is now, like the clock, broken.
Ryan C p4
2/13/2014 12:48:49 pm
the clock is a symbol of the nature of the relationship between Gatsby and Daisy. It is frozen in time and no longer runs, much like the relationship between the two. When Gatsby drops it, the clock could symbolize that the relationship will quickly slip away from him, but he saves it just before that happens
Emily F 5
2/11/2014 08:40:29 am
I think that the weather in chapter 5 when Daisy and Gatsby meet is a symbol for their feelings and relationship. In the beginning of the chapter, it “was pouring rain” (Fitzgereld 88). Gatsby was very uneasy and nervous before Daisy came over and the rain symbolizes his feelings. When Daisy arrived, the meeting was very awkward. Everyone was uncomfortable. Nick said to Gatsby, “You’re embarrassed, that’s all… Daisy’s embarrassed too” (93). After a while “the sun shone again” (93). The sun shining symbolizes how Gatsby and Daisy’s love is restored. It is no longer awkward, “every vestige of embarrassment was gone. Daisy’s face was smeared with tears… [and Gatsby] literally glowed” (94). The shining sun symbolizes the happiness that they found again.
Caitlin Collins Period 2
2/12/2014 10:26:39 am
Great point Emily, also, in many books, rain is used as a symbol for cleansing which made me think that when Gatsby and Daisy reunited, there was a sort of "clean slate" between them. They didn't acknowledge their old drama or bring up the past, but rather just jumped right in to enjoying one another's company. I agree with you in saying that the weather, particularily the rain, played a large part in this point of the story
maddy b
2/12/2014 11:24:42 am
I totally agree with you Caitlin. The way you described the rain was great. Neither of them up the past but we're almost awkward. Yes the rain in theoretical trends was their new sleight but they are almost like kids again immature and add what to do with themselves. And the clock i agree that he wishes that he could go back before daisy got married but I don't believe that they will be together because of her character. She won't put her name to Shane through a divorce for a man who did not come from wealth. She did not wait back then nor shall she wait now.
Tyler S Period 4
2/11/2014 08:54:58 am
The scene where Gatsby is throwing shirts at Daisy is very important. The shirts symbolize Gatsby's wealth and luxury. The reason daisy cries is because Daisy already has wealth and all the money she wants. She does not want money and this is not what she is looking for. She does like them as anyone would because of how nice they are and this is why she likes the event as a whole at first but she doesn't particularly enjoy the wealth. Another reason she may be crying is because she comes to get away from Tom. Tom may represent wealth and that's why she cries, because she is trying to get away from him and the money reminds her of him.
Tyler S
2/11/2014 12:00:11 pm
*Re-phrasing the awkwardly worded sentence*
She does like the shirts as anyone would because of how nice they are. This is why she likes the event as a whole at first, but she doesn't particularly enjoy the wealth.
Kelsey J 1
2/12/2014 06:27:22 am
I would have to agree with you that Daisy now is looking for love rather than wealth. But the reason that Daisy cries when Gatsby showers her in the different types of shirts... I would have to change why she cries. I believe she is crying because it is seen that after all of these years, Gatsby has gone to all of this trouble and built up this money supply all for Daisy. And if we look at the moment when Daisy "wouldn't let go of the letter, She took it into the tub with her and squeezed it up into a wet ball, only... (to see) that it was coming to pieces like snow" (61 Fitzgerald). She never needed the wealth, which is why when she went to marry Tom and she knew Gatsby had returned, she wanted to go find Gatsby.
Lyssa L p4
2/13/2014 01:24:57 pm
I think Daisy's reason for crying is different from what you said. Daisy does need the wealth. Through the symbol of the English shirts, Daisy states the reason she is crying to Gatsby by explaining, "It makes me sad because I have never seen such - such beautiful shirts before" (Fitzgerald 98). By this, the readers begin to see how Daisy realizes Gatsby could have given her the life Tom had given her, as far as wealth, and maybe more than Tom gave her because Gatsby loved Daisy unconditionally. She is displaying regret in this scene, but I believe Daisy wishes she would have waited for Gatsby like he had said, because of how successful he turned out to be on top of the past feelings she once had for him.
Vasudha P Period 1
2/11/2014 11:31:34 am
English shirts:
They are luxuries; it symbolizes Gatsby is rich now, different from before and that's also what makes Daisy “sad because she has never seen such--such beautiful shirts before (92)”. It foreshadows Daisy’s change from purity to corruption. We now realize that it's true, money is all that lures daisy. It's not love she possesses its lust and that to not for a person but for wealth. n previous chapters the green light represents a spring or a new beginning, as hope or promise for a relationship with Daisy.
Green Light:
In previous chapters the green light represents a spring or a new beginning, as hope or promise for a relationship with Daisy. Gatsby was staring at the green light and dreaming about their future; representing that Gatsby's dream has come true, the light is green he just needs to drive. Just as Gatsby said that the “colossal significance of that light had now vanished forever (93).” Everything is in place now all that is needed is for Gatsby to make his move. Once the light is green you have to go or someone will crash into you.
mildreth t period 1
2/12/2014 10:52:08 am
I agree with the whole 'money is all that lures Daisy' but i also think she had a break down because shes realizing that she might have been just fine if she would have married Gatsby instead of Tom. Shes realizing her selfish mistake of only marrying Tom for his money.
Gilton C. P4
2/13/2014 12:06:33 pm
I agree on the analysis you made regarding the green light wholeheartedly, but I doubt there is enough evidence to suggest that Daisy is a gold digger at this point. On the other hand, like various other posts on the blog have guessed at, the shirts can be seen as pieces of Gatsby's past either positive or negative in the sense of what a wealthy man he has become since their last meeting or more and more of him attempting to prove his lies. Overall I believe the shirts hold a greater meaning to Daisy than simply luxury items.
Caleb S, Period 5
2/13/2014 12:46:09 pm
I agree with your view on the green light as a symbol. I like when you said that Gatsby was staring at the green light and dreaming about their future, their meaning Daisy’s and his. Then I also completely agree with you when you said that it represents Gatsby’s dreams coming true, he just needed the “green light”, or the go ahead. I think that now that he has the go ahead it will begin to change some important things within the novel. And with that it will change our out look on things and certain characters.
Josh S. 5
2/13/2014 01:29:59 pm
I definitely agree with you when you say that Daisy's life is changing a lot with the change from Tom to Gatsby, however I believe that Daisy truly does love Gatsby and she is not, as Gilton said, a gold digger. When Gatsby is flaunting his wealth and she says that she is “sad because she has never seen such--such beautiful shirts before" I think she is meaning that she is sad that she did not realize that Gatsby would have this wealth. The reason she unwillingly married Tom was for the wealth because of the debut her parents threw for her. However, I believe she loves Gatsby and if she knew that he was that rich, she would have been able to marry a rich man, which is what her parents required, and someone she actually loved. This is why she said she was sad. The hyphen is there because she was just in so much shock of how much she was missing out on.
Carl A. Period 5
2/11/2014 12:01:19 pm
The green light reappears in Chapter 5, but previously, it symbolized a dream and hope for Gatsby and Daisy. In the overall text, it represents the American Dream at the time. He finally has the opportunity to grasp that green light during this meeting with Daisy, "Possibly it had occurred to him that the colossal significance of that light had no vanished forever. Compared to the great distance that had separated him from Daisy it had seemed very near to her, almost touching her" (Fitzgerald 93). Now that his dream is within arms reach, the green light has lost its significance to Gatsby and all he can do is try to have a relationship with Daisy they had before he went to war. Also, the weather represents the mood of the meeting between Daisy and Gatsby. At first, they were both nervous so it was raining, but by the end they appeared to be happy with each other, and the sun began to shine.
Morganne J p.5
2/13/2014 10:59:27 am
I love the way you described the green light here as Gatsby’s sort of ‘light at the end of the tunnel’ or at, “the end of a dock” (Fitzgerald 21) in his journey towards reuniting with Daisy. I also agree with you that the light has lost some significance now because of the fact that he has finally become acquainted with Daisy again after five long years.
Miranda L Period 4
2/11/2014 11:37:50 pm
I feel like the weather is a very big symbol in the reunion of Daisy and Gatsby. The rain in the begining of the chapter sets the mood that Gatsby has about meeting Daisy again for the first time in years. He is very nervous, but once he starts talking to Daisy, their love is rekindled and the sun comes out. The sun comes out to set the mood of happiness that Gatsby feels. I think the weather symbolizes Gatsby's mood. After they finish up their reunion, " the sun shone again." (Fitzgerald 93).
Taylor D. Period 4
2/13/2014 09:24:04 am
I agree! This is similar to what we went over in class today. The weather in lots of novels and books tends to show the hidden emotions of the characters. It also foreshadows events for the readers. When the sun started to shine, it indicates good times that are in the near future for Jay & Daisy.
Kyra J Period 1
2/13/2014 09:48:58 am
I would have to agree with you Miranda, except I don't think the weather only applies to Gatsby's mood, but it applies to Daisy's mood as well. She was just as nervous and scared as he was that the only topics she could bring up were obvious ones. Like when she says, "We haven't met for years," I could tell that she was feeling so awkward that she had a lack of words which relates back to the stormy weather.
Julia C. 2
2/12/2014 03:59:47 am
A symbol that I found in chapter 5 are the shirts that Gatsby throws at Daisy. "He took out a pile of shirts and began throwing them, one by one, before us, shirts of sheer linen and thick silk and fine flannel..."(Fitzgerald 92). The shirts that Gatsby owns represent his wealth, Fitzgerald does not just say how he throws his shirts at Daisy he describes the different types of shirts, like silk which is a fabric normally related with someone who is very wealthy. Also, by him having a multitude of different types shows his wealth. After Gatsby had thrown shirts at Daisy she had begun to cry, I think that she began to cry because she may have realized that she is not happy with Tom, and wishes that she could be with Gatsby.
Brandon K 4
2/12/2014 02:28:07 pm
I agree with the part of the shirts representing Gatsby's wealth.I also agree about the use of various types of shirts showing how he has tried to buy many various things to get the attention of Daisy. I dont know if it was wording or intentional but you made it sound like Daisy doesnt want to be with Tom because of the sheer wealth of Gatsby. However I think she is crying becuase she realized all the trouble that Gatsby has gone through to get her attention and try to kind of buy her back. He has done nothing but love and try to contact Daisy over the years where as she got rushed into marriage years before.
Rachel VB (4)
2/13/2014 12:46:15 pm
I think when he was showing Daisy the shirts he was trying to show her how much money he has now. He wants her to know what she is missing out on. I think you are right about her crying because Tom does not make her happy. I think she regrets not waiting for Tom because if she was with Gatsby she would have a good husband as well as money.
Emma S. 2
2/12/2014 04:54:19 am
A symbol that I found important were the shirts. The shirts represent the beautiful life that Daisy could have had if she waited for Gatsby. Since she married Tom, she lost her chance at a life with someone she loved and the money she wanted, "It makes me sad because I've never seen such--such beautiful shirts before." (Fitzgerald 92). She is not happy with Tom and wants to be happy with Gatsby and the beautiful life he lives.
Lizzy K P4
2/12/2014 06:49:17 am
I think the shirts could also represent the unfolding of the characters' stories. The stories told in chapter four tell the reader about the backgrounds of the character who have previously been somewhat of a mystery. After there is enough information to piece together Daisy and Gatsby's love, the rest of the story starts to unfold.
Giancarlo G. Period 1
2/13/2014 10:54:17 am
I agree with you, Emma, about the shirts representing the beautiful life that Daisy ends up missing out on. I feel that the shirts could go a bit further to symbolize the human element. I mean, the shirts could represent Gatsby’s wealth, but I feel that it implies the loneliness in Daisy’s life. As Daisy says, “it makes me sad because I’ve never seen such- such beautiful shirts before” (Fitzgerald 92). I almost feel that the quote is a memory of regret of not waiting for Gatsby. As we can see five years later, the regret turns into loneliness since Tom does not care for Daisy as a husband should. She is almost isolated into loneliness.
Bailey F p2
2/12/2014 05:52:46 am
I have come across a few different symbols in the first 5 chapters that we have read. The first one is the green light. It represents Gatsby’s hopes and dreams for the future. Since the green light is on Daisy's dock, his hopes and dreams for the future involve her and the relationship that could reappear. Another symbol that I identified was the weather when Daisy and Gatsby saw each other again for the first time in years. It was "pouring rain" (Fitzgerald 88). This represents the nervousness that Gatsby was feeling before he saw Daisy again. When Daisy arrived, things were very weird and awkward between the two of them. "After half an hour, the sun shone again" (Fitzgerald). The shining sun symbolizes the connection that they once had was found again. The awkward stage disappeared, and they were happy with each other after they talked things out for a little while.
Joe S. 2
2/12/2014 11:19:34 am
Rain is also commonly used in movies and literature for that "Make up" moment (or, purification). When Gatsby finally meets daisy for the first time in a long while, it could be Daisy's time to rethink her life, and maybe think of the person she could have been with.
Julia C. 2
2/13/2014 08:15:25 am
I agree that the green light represents the hopes and dreams that Gatsby has for his future with Daisy. Even though she is married I think he is beginning to become more hopeful now that they have reconnected. I believe that Gatsby uses the light as a guide to his goal, which is happiness with Daisy. I think that the symbol of rain relates to a new and fresh start, the rain is washing away the past and the two past lovers are now reconnecting in a new way.
Justin C Period 2
2/13/2014 12:35:05 pm
I agree with the rain having to do something with all the tension and mixed feeling in the air. Once the first unite the rain is pouring and there is sort of an awkward feeling, but as the chapter goes on, Nick later sees Gatsby and Daisy smiling and laughing, and Nick mentions that the rain has stopped.
Giancarlo G. Period 1
2/12/2014 05:52:46 am
I found the shirts that Gatsby pulls out of his cabinets to be important. I feel that the shirts represent regret, because “it makes [Daisy] sad because [she hasn’t] ever seen such- such beautiful shirts before” (Fitzgerald 76). Daisy had an opportunity to spend her life with Gatsby, but decided not to, as she ended up marrying Tom. I feel the shirts make Daisy feel alone, in a certain way. It seems that everyone’s connected, but no one is connecting. The human element has long been missing for both Daisy and Gatsby.
Ambreen M. (period 1)
2/12/2014 12:43:10 pm
I agree with you, Giancarlo. Daisy cares for nothing really but wealth. She is in love, not with Tom or Gatsby but rather whoever can provide the luxuries.
Elizabeth Z 2
2/13/2014 06:15:51 am
I like the point you make here about the shirts representing Daisy's loneliness. I agree that she do feel trapped in a way, as well as a bit disappointed in herself for not waiting for Gatsby. Other people have just related the shirts to Gatsby's wealth, and I like how you took it one step further to mention his wealth's affect on Daisy.
Tyler Ken.
2/12/2014 05:54:09 am
A symbol I found meaningfull in the chapter and the text as a whole is the green light. Gatsby states that " if it wasn't for the mist we could see your home across the bay... You always have a green light that burns all night at the end of your dock" (98). The green light in the chapter represents Gatsby's unknown love for Daisy and the wish that she was with him instead of Tom. As for the whole novel's theme, the green light could represent the American Dream and it's wonders. Gatsby states that the mist was an issue in seeing the green light; the mist could represent the false meaning of the green light. While many feel that the American Dream is dependant on money, the true American Dream is finding happiness. Nick states that " the expression of bewilderment had come back into Gatsby's face, as though a faint doubt had occurred to him as to the quality of his present happiness... There must have been moments even that afternoon when Daisy tumbled short of his dreams"(101). Gatsby, like society has reached and attained their " green light" but they find that the "green light" they strived for was only an imagination. Fitzgerald is tying to state that society must end its chase for material objects, like money, and try to pursue happiness, the real green light.
Carl A. Period 5
2/12/2014 10:33:47 am
I think this detail gets overshadowed by the happiness Gatsby and Daisy display with each other. You're right about the green light being a false image, a wild imagination conjured up through his longing for Daisy. I also think this is correct because Daisy might not be able to live up to his dream, "...I saw that the expression of bewilderment had come back into Gatsby's face, as though a faint doubt had occurred to him as to the quality of his present happiness. Almost five years! There must have been moments even that afternoon when Daisy tumbled short of his dreams-not through her own fault, but because of the colossal vitality of his illusion" (Fitzgerald 95). He had very high expectations that Daisy probably won't live up to and it is his problem. He vigorously attempted to capture his dream, but it won't be fulfilled.
Joe Sanchez Period 1
2/12/2014 05:56:08 am
In my opinion, I think that one symbol that seems to stand out are Gatsby's shirts. These shirts represent Gatsby's abundant wealth and just one of the many fine objects that he could be using to pull Daisy in. As Gatsby pulls the shirts out, Daisy says "They're such beautiful shirts" (Fitzgerald 92). One of the reasons Daisy is crying is because she realizes she could of had a grand, prestigious, famous, and much better life with Gatsby than with Tom. She also could be crying because she may be realizing that the once "poor" Gatsby is now swimming in pools of wealth, which is, in a way, what Daisy wanted since the begging. She seems to be shocked by his amount of wealth and is hit with a rush of jealousy. In that moment it is as if she regrets that she got married with Tom instead of Gatsby. Also, she could be noticing that she made a huge mistake by marrying Tom because with Gatsby she could have been living in a much more valuable and enjoyable life.
Tyler S Period 4
2/13/2014 11:37:20 am
I agree with you Joe. I think that Daisy does realize that she has missed out on what could been such a wonderful life. She now knows that she made a mistake in her life and is also in the process of realizing how boring her life is with Tom. One of the highlights of the year for Daisy is the longest day and she waits for it anxiously. When it is soon arriving she says that they should plan something and asks what people plan. This proves Daisy's unhappiness and overall boring lifestyle with Tom.
Alexis B. Period 1
2/12/2014 06:21:30 am
I think a symbol seen in chapter 5 is Gatsby's master bedroom. It is sais to be, "the simplest of all." (Fitzgerald 101). I think this symbolizes the simplicity of Gatsby internally. Not many see this side of him just like many don't get to see the inside of his master bedroom. The rest of the house represents Gatsby's external image, grand and luxurious. Not many see the true simple side of him. I think this connects to the story because Daisy and Nick are the only ones who have seen his internal image. He shows them his house, and through this he is able to show them his true character and personality.
Ammara A.
2/12/2014 06:43:58 am
I totally agree with you lexi. A man with such wealth, people would predict him to live in full luxury and seeing that his room is simple indicates a positive reflection on Gatsby because he lives in a mansion and throws expensive parties which can be seen as a little materialistic and him having a simple room puts his character in a new perspective.
Ryan F. Period Two
2/12/2014 11:00:25 am
I do like what you're saying about the bedroom but I don't necessarily agree that it is a symbol. Symbols tend to be recurring and his room is only brought up the one time so far. It does represent his internal simplicity, however, so I do agree with that.
Vasudha P. Period 1
2/13/2014 11:44:26 am
I agree! This is similar to what we went over in class today. The weather in lots of novels and books tends to depict hidden emotion about the characters while also foreshadowing events for the readers. When the sun started to shine, it indicates good times that are in the near future for Jay & Daisy.
Emylee F. Period 5
2/12/2014 06:23:52 am
In chapter five, there are several symbols throughout the text. Some more prominent than other's. One of the less distinctive ones, I believe, is Gatsby's house. The readers are introduced in the chapter by the house being "...lit from tower to cellar." (81) Ironically, the house is lit up "two o'clock" at night. In this scene, Nick and Gatsby discuss Gatsby's idea of having Daisy come over for tea. In one insistence, the house can represent the bright idea that Gatsby had. Typically, when in cartoons someone has a idea, they have a light-bulb light over their head. Yet, to dig in a little deeper. The house can also represent something about Gatsby. All he has in his possessions is his house. In the current scene, it is dark out. Which can be in connection to how Gatsby feels without Daisy. He has a darkness to him and his life, a sorrow. Surprisingly, the idea of seeing Daisy again --which is planning to happen, adds light into his life. In which his house is representing. The fact that Gatsby has his lights on in order to look through the house and determine everything in it, it can be inferred that this is figurative language for Gatsby checking every possible thing to make sure the encounter with Daisy will keep his light going and it will continue to be perfect; like he has set it up to be.
Paula R. Period 5
2/12/2014 12:59:20 pm
I agree with you that Gatsby's house is one of the less prominent symbols maybe it was because it had been so obvious. In this chapter, Gatsby's house is referred often and after Gatsby had some alone time with Daisy offered to show them around his house. Fitzgerald writes that rather than "taking the short cut... [they] went down the road" taking the long way, most likely for Gatsby to show off the extent of extravagance his house contained (Fitzgerald 90). It's an important symbol because Gatsby wants to illustrate his wealth to Daisy and by owning the largest house, presumably, in both Eggs he can show her the complete extent of her wealth. I also agree with you that he made every attempt to make sure that his house was perfect for Daisy, even making Mr. Klipsringer play the piano to entertain her. Gastby's house was another symbol to express his wealth to impress Daisy.
Megan J P4
2/13/2014 07:51:31 am
I like how you compared Gatsby's lit up house to Daisy adding light to his life and I agree with your point. Later on in the chapter, I think that Gatsby's house can symbolize something else too. Gatsby's house has "Marie Antoinette music-rooms" (Fitzgerald 93) and he has a "man in England who buys me clothes" (94). Gatsby's house/ items in the house display connections to aristocracy in countries such as France and England. These ties to foreign aristocracy in Gatsby's house represent the loss of the America the founding fathers envisioned, a place of equality, economic opportunity, and where social class doesn't really matter. Gatsby's house symbolizes the loss of the American dream and instead obsession with wealth and the foreign social systems America tried to leave behind.
Rachel VW period 5
2/13/2014 11:58:28 am
I think that this is a very interesting idea. I didn't even think about his house as a whole being a symbol but I do feel that it fits. Especially in the scene that you mentioned, I feel that what you explained makes perfect sense! Very good observation. The analogy to the cartoons and the light bulb was very clever as well and it definitely supported the symbolism of the house.
Lizzy K P4
2/12/2014 06:36:07 am
The weather in chapter five is symbolic of how Daisy and Gatsby are interacting. As the weather worsens while Gatsby and Nick prepare for tea with Daisy. Then, the tension in the air is at its greatest when Gatsby arrives at Nick's "pale as death, with his hands plunged like weights in his coat pockets...standing in a puddle of water" (Fitzgerald 85). Having come in from standing in a torrential downpour, Gatsby is soaked, but by the time he, Nick and Daisy go outside, the sun is shining. This type of relationship goes on throughout the book with many people. Jordan and Nick have an uneasy relationship at first, but they get to know each other and become closer, going to the city together and telling stories about friends to each other.
Hailey A. 2
2/13/2014 10:53:56 am
I totally agree with you that the weather was a major factor in the mood of the chapter. The tension of the mood when Gatsby arrives at Nicks wouldn't be the same if it was sunny outside and the birds were chirping. however, if they are still in love the way we want them to be, why would it be so tense?
Ammara A.
2/12/2014 07:04:40 am
I think Gatsby's comment on the grass needing to be cut is symbolic of how Gatsby is nervous about having tea with Daisy. "We both looked at the grass-- there was a sharp line where my ragged lawn ended and the darker, well-kept expanse of his began" (87). It shows him trying to make everything perfect and go smoothly with Daisy because of how he feels about her. It's a small detail but important because it's a start of Gatsby's emotions coming to surface.
Ammara A.
2/12/2014 07:08:42 am
To add on, Jay Gatsby does not seem like a type of man who gets nervous, so his uneasiness is a more obscure way off Jay opening up in a way because his character does not generally "fumble".
Harshita K 1
2/12/2014 07:43:48 am
Although there are many symbols identified in this chapter, The weather is seen as a distinctive symbol but when used in any type of writing the weather seems to reflect to the mood of the story. The exact day that they planned to bring Daisy over was pouring rain. The rain represents Gatsby's mood When Gatsby first goes to Nicks house to meet Daisy, it is very rainy which may reflect Gatsby's mood as being down, nervous, anxious, etc. When Gatsby arrives at Nick's "pale as death, with his hands plunged like weights in his coat pockets...standing in a puddle of water" (Fitzgerald 85). This visually shows the tension in the air is at its greatest. The rain proved the awkwardness and the melancholy this chapter possessed. It symbolizes their love reawakes just as the sun begins to come out and brings out the inner thoughts of Gatsby.
After they finish up their reunion, " the sun shone again." (Fitzgerald 93). This shows the overall relief that he must have been feeling proceeding the conversation.
Jennifer C. Period 1
2/12/2014 10:06:18 am
I do agree with you, Harshita, on how you connected the weather with what the characters are feeling. Before this chapter, we have never really gotten a description about the weather that is as significant as Fitzgerald has described here, which makes the rain very important. Rain is sometimes associated with, as you said, sadness and in Gatsby's case, anxiety. In fact, the rain sounded like "a murmur of their voices, rising and swelling a little now and then with gusts of emotion" (89). I found it very interesting on how Fitzgerald not only describes his characters to act nervous or awkward, but includes the weather.
Paulette D. Period 5
2/12/2014 08:01:28 am
One of the symbols that I found to be significant was the rain. Since rain usually represents new life or new beginnings, I think it foreshadows the relationship between Gatsby and Daisy being rejuvenated. As Gatsby and Nick wait for people to arrive, Gatsby “peer[s] toward the bleared windows from time to time as if a series of invisible but alarming happenings were taking place outside” (Fitzgerald 84). The little get together that Nick created allowed Daisy and Gatsby to be reunited after the four years they were apart. Fitzgerald hints that the love between Daisy and Gatsby will blossom again and cause quite a scandal within their community.
Brenda N. 4
2/13/2014 01:36:54 pm
I find your ideas very surprising, Paulette. I like where your ideas are going, but I don't very much agree with the fact that they might be reunited. It does not seem that Daisy is into getting with Gatsby in that sort of way. I find that she is more regretful of the things she could have had when she cries and said, " It makes me sad because I've never seen such- such beautiful things before" (92). I see how you felt that their may be a re connection between the two towards the end of the chapter, but I think it is just Daisy's charm and Gatsby's obsession with Daisy that has him misinterpreting her whispers to the ears.
Angel A 5
2/12/2014 08:06:24 am
In previous chapters the green light represents a spring or a new beginning, as hope or promise for a relationship with Daisy. “You always have a green light that burns all night at the end of your dock” Gatsby was staring at the green light and dreaming about their future, representing that gatsby’s dream has come true. Just as Gatsby said that the “colossal significance of that light had now vanished forever. He has finally met Daisy after all those years, and now that green light will only represent a light.
Corey K. (period 5)
2/12/2014 12:11:04 pm
I agree with this but only to a certain extent. The green light lost its significance, in my opinion, because now Daisy knows that Gatsby has been thinking of her. It was his longing for Daisy after all this time. And now, even if the light is still at the end of the dock, it has transformed into a new meaning of hopefulness and to a degree, hopelessness because she is already married to Tom.
Matt R period 2
2/13/2014 10:49:25 am
I agree with you Corey because i do not think Gatsby will ever be able to have Daisy. I think the green light symbolizes his desires, and pushes him on into the future, a future he had been planning for the last five years. However, now that he has reached it he still has the same relation they had all along. The green light put him in the future when he truly should have been in the present this hole time. Fitzgerald creates the awkward first meeting with that purpose in mind. Thats why the symbol of Gatsby being "sorry about the clock," is used. He is sorry about the wasted time but he still lives in the future.
Becca K
2/12/2014 08:08:55 am
One symbol I saw throughout this chapter was the weather. From Gatsby's actions you could tell he was extremely nervous and conflicted about meeting Daisy. The weather reflected this because "The day agreed upon was pouring rain" (Fitzgerald 83). I think Fitzgerald chose their meeting day to be rainy because it symbolizes the inner turmoil that Gatsby is experiencing. You can see this symbol continued while they are becoming acquinted again and talking about the past. "While the rain continued it had seemed like the murmur of their voices, rising and swelling a little now and then with gusts of emotion" (Fitzgerald). I think the rain is continuing its symbolance of their inner turmoil here as their gusts of emotions rise and swell with the rain. Finally, towards the end of their meeting they have grown closer and reconnected. This is represented by the "twinkle-bells of sunshine in the room" (Fitzgerald 89). There is no longer the rain and the inner turmoil present, but rather a sense of relief and happiness that the sunshine brings.
Corey J 5
2/13/2014 12:35:07 pm
I agree with your comment all the way. The way he sets up their meeting to go along with how the weather is acting is brilliant and couldn't have been done better to symbolize their interactions at the time. It starts raining and stops right at the correct time for their meeting and reemerged feelings.
Megan J P4
2/12/2014 08:17:49 am
The symbol that stands out the most to me is the clock and how it connects specifically to Gatsby. The usually sophisticated and composed Gatsby was “pale as death, with his hands plunged like weights in his coat pockets” (Fitzgerald 88). It is obvious that Gatsby’s love for Daisy has not changed with time, but Gatsby fears that Daisy’s feelings about him changed in the passage of time, explaining Gatsby’s nervousness. Clocks are closely related to the passage of time which is why Nick’s old clock was used as a symbol when “the clock took this moment to tilt dangerously at the pressure of his head, whereupon he turned and caught it with trembling fingers and set it back in place” (88-89). This clock symbolizes the clumsiness/ awkwardness of Gatsby’s attempt to stop time and retrieve his past with Daisy. As for the novel as a whole, this clock could represent people trying to turn back to a time where it didn’t matter how much money someone had, people got married simply because they were in love. It shows how the people of the 1920’s were so concerned with wealth that emotions, such as love, didn’t matter if money wasn’t involved leading to spiritual debasement.
Jordan C. 2
2/12/2014 08:22:32 am
The symbol I chose was that of the shirts that Gatsby owns that he was throwing around in his bedroom. This symbol adds emphasis to the relationship Daisy and Gatsby have that we as readers get to witness now in the novel's present than both of their pasts and determine their real pasts. The line, "suddenly, with a strained sound, Daisy bent her head into the shirts and began to cry stormily. 'They're such beautiful shirts,' she sobbed, her voice muffled in the thick folds. 'It makes me sad because I've never seen such--such beautiful shirts before'" (Fitzgerald 92) explains a little but more to their relationship. Even from previous chapters leading to this chapter Daisy and Gatsby seemed at one point to be close but during their first meeting again they almost seem distant and even too distant for old lovers and friends. The shirts for the reason why Daisy cries is because she never waited for Gatsby because he was not rich and Daisy wanted someone wealthy. But now that she sees that she could have waited for Gatsby to strike it rich she feels guilty for leaving Gatsby for Tom. But then again this love triangle is off balanced because deep down Daisy feels connected to Tom still more than Gatsby but it's a struggle to choose who Daisy really wants. Which will lead to the rest of the novel of her trying to decide between the two men again, now they have about both qualities she needs and wants.
Carissa C. P4
2/13/2014 05:07:15 am
I agree with your regarding your ideas about the shirts. I feel that Gatsby is now proving to Daisy that she made a big mistake in not waiting for him and is flaunting his wealth to show what she could have had. Even though Gatsby still loves Daisy, he still seems a little hurt over the past and is desperately trying to get her to pick up where they left off.
Anna W. 1st
2/13/2014 11:06:30 am
I completely agree with your idea Jordan! I think Gatsby threw these shirts around as a way to show Daisy what she could have had, (and maybe what she still can). I also believe that he does this to show her that he doesn't care about the money and that he only did all of this for her. I don't necessarily agree that Daisy feels more connected to Tom, because her connection with him is complicated as well, I think it's more that time has changed the both of them, she's been with Tom all these years, she has children, she's not the same person that she used to be, and Gatsby may not be the same either.
Alayna D. Period 1
2/13/2014 01:11:01 pm
I agree with you as well Jordan. In our class period we had a discussion about the shirts and how it changed Daisy's opinion. She went from thinking Tom was the right choice for her life and keeping her social class, to being torn between the man she loves and her husband. Both of the men can provide her with the wealth and social class that she desires. Obviously she didn't know this when she married Tom, this poses a conflict considering Jay is the man she truly loves.
Andrea C. 2
2/12/2014 08:45:06 am
The green light that first appeared in Chapter One reappears in Chapter Five, but with a whole new meaning. Gatsby saw the green light as a symbol of hope for the love between him and Daisy. He longed to be near her and the green light was something he admired and treasured. After their first meeting in five years, Gatsby revalued the importance of the green light. Nick notices, "Now it was again a green light on a dock. His count of enchanted objects had diminished by one" (93). When Gatsby and Daisy reconnected, his hope in the green light kind of died away. He was closer to Daisy than he ever was before and the green light was needed no longer.
Carissa C. P4
2/12/2014 08:52:34 am
A symbol I located in chapter five would have to be the piano player Klipspringer and the song he plays. I feel that he is essential in the final step in Gatsby and Daisy's reunion because the song seems to put them in the moment and causes them not to worry about whatever is going on outside of the house. Nick describes the scene as, "It was the hour of profound human change, and excitement was generating on the air" (Fitzgerald 92). Nick's description implies that something would occur that would change the course of events in the coming days and months, which leads me to think that the change is Daisy and Gatsby's rekindled relationship. The song seems to put Daisy and Gatsby at ease and more comfortable with each other.
Emily F p5
2/12/2014 11:40:44 pm
I agree with you about how the song played in chapter 5 brings Daisy and Gatsby closer together. The meeting is very awkward at first but gradually they become closer. I think he weather also acts as a symbol as it reflects the awkwardness at first, but eventually becomes a shining sun when they are happy and the nervousness are gone. I also thought that the lyrics of the song were very ironic because it goes “In the morning/ in the evening/ Ain’t we got fun” (Fitzgereld101). The tone of this song seems to contrast with the mood of their meeting.
Amber H. p4
2/12/2014 09:03:38 am
As the title of the blog says, and everyone has reiterated, there are a lot of symbols in chapter 5. The first symbol I came across was the rain when Daisy and Gatsby meet for the first time in nearly 5 years. Rain is usually never a good sign, so I believe it symbolizes the pain and depression both of them had gone into when their relationship was severed and the rekindling pain of that break up for both of them. "The rain cooled about half past three to a damp mist..." (84). I connected this to the lightening of Gatsby's pain at the thought of setting Daisy again. But when Daisy shows up, the pour starts to increase which is the increasing pain that they both feel for each other. Another symbol in chapter 5 is Gatsby's shirts. "He took out a pile of shirts and began throwing them, one by one, before us, diets of sheer linen and thick silk and fine flannel, which lost their folds as they fell." (92) I believe that his shirts are symbolic of the life that he has lived as Jay Gatsby. He has had to do some interesting things to get his fortune, and the people that he has encountered along the way. But the unfolding of Gatsby's shirts could mean that his composed nature is going to break some point soon, and or the unravelling of the mystery of who Jay Gatsby is.
Matt C. Period 1
2/12/2014 09:07:45 am
I think one of the major symbols in chapter 5 is the whether throughout the chapter. In the beginning of the chapter it is raining, symbolizing how sad Gatsby is about not being together with Daisy, as well as how he is feeling about meeting her again. Eventually the sun comes back out, but when Nick leaves he, "went out of the room and down the marble steps into the rain, leaving them there together" (Fitzgerald 96). When Nick steps back out into the rain, it could be foreshadowing what could happen later between Gatsby and Daisy.
Riley S. P2
2/13/2014 05:36:58 am
I think something else that needs to be mentioned about the rain is that rain has the capability of washing things away. The rain does indeed represent the charcters sorrow that have lasted the last five years, but it is also is washing away the pain. After a few hours of Gatsby and Daisy talking the rain stops. The sun, like you said is a good beginning. What I hadn't thought of, however, was the rain at the end of the chapter. I completely agree that it foreshadowing the dark future that is ahead for the characters.
Riley S. P2
2/12/2014 09:09:20 am
The symbol I found most interesting in this chapter was Daisy's exasperated emotions over Gatsby's shirts. Daisy sees the pile of Gatsby's beautiful shirts, all carped sly thrown on to his bed. She cries for the life she gave up. Daisy doesn't wait for Gatsby because Tom has money, young Gatsby did not. She returns five years later to find that her true love now has everything she has ever wanted and more. She cries over the beauty of their lost life together, she is sad to see such beauty in luxury. Daisy's tears are those of regret and longing. The novel will change drastically now, Daisy see the mistake in her past, she sees how unhappy she is in her life and now her is a man who loves her so entirely he has built his whole adult life around his hope to renew his old love. Nothing is holding back Daisy anymore, except her husband. Daisy and Gatsby's need to be together will change the novel drastically.
Shivam P. period 2
2/13/2014 10:32:43 am
I agree with your statements because I feel like Daisies emotions symbolize everything in her life and how she isn't happy with Tom. I especially agree with how Daisy 's tears are those of regret. The regret she has is not waiting for Gatsby so that she can live a happy life.
Rachel H. Period 4
2/12/2014 09:14:56 am
I feel like throughout the novel, especially in chapter 5, the weather plays a huge part in symbolism. Rain can mean a lot of things, and it rains A LOT in this chapter. I feel like it can represent anxiety, tiredness, depression, nervousness, and feelings that can fall under these categories; but even at the same time it can represent a state of being tranquil. Right before Daisy appears, it states that Nick and Gatsby went outside, and Daisy's car was parked "[u]nder the dripping bare lilac-trees" (Fitzgerald 85). I feel like this can symbolize the fact that Gatsby is nervous, however, it also describes the lilac-tree, which I feel could represent serendipity and serenity, because they are beautiful in their nature. Therefore, the rain and lilac-trees balance each other out, since it was only "dripping". The rain plays out through the entire chapter, and at the end of it, Nick went "down the marble steps into the rain, leaving them there together" (Fitzgerald 96). With this, I felt that Gatsby and Daisy were left at the right place, and were able to pick up and become somewhat close again. Nick was happy with this, and thought to give them some peace, in which the rain can represent: a tranquil state of mind, as it rains in the background. When I imagined this scene, I imagined a soft rain, because it is such a precious scene.
Melissa S. (Period 2)
2/13/2014 09:52:32 am
I like your idea about what the rain symbolizes. I had never thought about it as being tranquil, but I can see your reasoning for that connection. I had originally seen the rain as it was falling to represent how everything seemed to be falling apart. The rain must have gotten more intense because when Nick went out to leave Gatsby and Daisy some privacy, he "ran for a huge black knotted tree, whose massed leaves made a fabric against the rain. Once more it was pouring..." (Fitzgerald 88). So maybe the rain picking up in intensity symbolized whatever happened before Nick came back inside the house
Taylor D. Period 4
2/12/2014 09:18:27 am
Out of all the symbols in the book, especially in chapter 5, the shirts stick out the most to me. The shirts represent the life that Daisy could have had with Gatsby but instead she chose to marry Tom. She," suddenly, with a strained sound, Daisy bent her head into the shirts and began to cry," (Fitzgerald 92). Daisy could have had all the riches and had the love of her life if she had waited. She cried at Gatsby's house because if she would have said no to Tom, her life would have been everything that she wanted.
Jen M. P1
2/12/2014 10:13:08 am
This is an interesting idea. When I came across this line in the book, I wasn't quite sure what to think of it, or how to interpret it. All I knew was that it was very important. I like your thought process here, and I think I agree with you that when Daisy says "it makes [her] sad because [she's] never seen such beautiful shirts before," it's supposed to represent her longing for the life she could have had, and her sadness in regards to the one she currently has. You made a great point.
Miranda L Period 4
2/12/2014 11:19:54 am
I agree with you Taylor. I think Daisy had finally realized that she made a mistake in marrying Tom. If she had waited for Gatsby like he asked, she would have all the money she needed and most importantly the love of her life. She finally realizes in this chapter that she could have had everything she could have ever wanted.
Alyssa Z. period 4
2/13/2014 06:37:42 am
I think this is a great idea! Although I knew the shirts symbolized something, it was hard for me to interpret exactly what it was. But after reading this and discussing in class I feel as if Gatsby's shirts are what pull the whole connection of Daisy and himself together.
Jennifer C. Period 1
2/12/2014 09:24:51 am
One of the major symbols Fitzgerald uses in Chapter 5 is the throwing of Gatsby's shirts. Daisy and Nick accompany Gatsby through his home and they come across cabinets containing "massed suits and dressing-gowns and ties, and his shirts, piled like bricks in stacks a dozen high'" (Fitzgerald 92). The way they are described in color and fabric could be inferred to show Gatsby's wealth, but i think it is something else. Nick and Daisy first admire the pile of the many shirts, however Daisy suddenly "bent[s] her head into the shirts and [begins] to cry stormily" (92). Many years before, Daisy did not wait for him and married Tom because he was wealthy and Gatsby was not; she felt obligated to marry someone with money. The shirts represent Gatsby's struggle to become very wealthy as a way to win back Daisy and give her the same lifestyle that she was given with Tom. Daisy is crying because she feels guilty about not waiting for Gatsby and now she sees how much he has struggled.
Andrea C. 2
2/13/2014 08:10:24 am
I agree with you Jennifer about the shirts representing the life that Daisy could have had. She not only feels guilty, but a lot of regret for making the decision of marrying Tom and not waiting for Gatsby. Gatsby throws the shirts to prove to her that he is now worthy of her love and has made something of himself since their last encounter before he went to the war. His struggle to become wealthy was fueled by Daisy's rejection and she now realizes the life she could have had with Jay.
Yousuf A period 5
2/13/2014 12:45:09 pm
I agree with you completely; the shirts are a symbol of what could have been with Daisy and Gatsby. They could also show the extent at which Gatsby is willing to go to get Daisy back. He seemed to bury her in the expensive shirts and the amount of love he was showing could have shocked her because of the lack of love Tom gives her. Her regret is total and complete because she knows now she could have been rich and happy not just rich like he mother wanted and I believe that is what makes this scene so deep.
Dong L. Period 5
2/12/2014 09:35:28 am
A symbol I found in chapter five is the weather because at the beginning it started raining and, "[Gatsby] looked at his watch as if there was some pressing demand on his time elsewhere"(Fitzgerald 85). Rain symbolize misfortune and a gloomy atmosphere such as it happen at the beginning of the chapter, however once the rain is over Gatsby got absorbed into talking to Daisy and it took them awhile to listen to what Nick have to say to them.
Bakari C. 2
2/13/2014 11:52:46 am
Dong, I never thought of the weather actually being a symbol rather as it being something that just happens in several pieces of literature. But, the way you say it does make sense. The rain lifting after Daisy and Jay "catch-up" does symbolize a new beginning almost. Water, in all societies, is something that is used to wipe away any discrepancies and in this scene, that exact theory is used. The rain beginning and then stopping to reveal a beautiful day seems to wipe away the time that was lost between Jay and Daisy and places them into the "past" that Jay is trying to create.
Renick W. 1
2/24/2014 11:40:19 am
I also think that when they are inside Gatsby's mansion and it states "Outside the wind was loud and there was a faint flow of thunder along the Sound" (Fitzgerald 95), it shows how they are now only improving their relationship with each other and the awkwardness is drifting further and further away.
Matt R
2/12/2014 09:51:19 am
One of the symbols that is important in this section is the clock, although it has a short reference. In the story, Gatsby leanes heavily on the clock, tips it over and "c[atches] it with a trembling finger." This symbol refers to Gatsby's heavy reliance on time, where he waited many years to confront Daisy. Gatsby's luxurious plan complicated everything, and the result of his doings was this extremely awkward moment. Clock almost falls and Gatsby says he is sorry about the clock. This small statement sums up a motiff of the effect of losing time. Gatsby in the end is negatively affected by his demand for perfection.
Costa D. (period 4)
2/12/2014 02:02:47 pm
I agree with you that the clock holds significant meaning about Gatsby's perfection. Time is something that is thought of as a precise measurement; Fitzgerald spiced this scene up a bit to show Gatsby wanted everything to be perfect.
Jen M. P1
2/12/2014 10:05:55 am
Of the many symbols in chapter five, one can be found in the scene where Nick steps out of his house to allow Gatsby and Daisy some privacy. As he waits in his backyard, he stands under "a huge black knotted tree... [his] irregular lawn, well-shaved by Gatsby's gardener, abounded in small muddy swamps and prehistoric marshes." The setting at this moment lends itself to depicting what could possibly be going on inside Nick's house. The converstation being held by Gatsby and Daisy is most likely a tangled and fragile one, which can be reflected by the knots of the tree and the unfamiliarity of the clean-cut lawn. They are undoubtedly discussing matters of the past, an unstable topic symbolized by the "prehistoric marshes." Daisy's tears when Nick walks in are presumably mirrored by the rain. All of these symbols are found within one short pragraph in the chapter.
Brittany D 1
2/13/2014 12:03:57 pm
These are all really good pints Jen but I am not sure I agree with all of them. You describe Gatsby' s and Daisy' s conversation to be fragile which I am sure it is. But to me, that does not connect to the tree because oak trees are supposed to be strong. But I do definitely see the part about the tangled knots. Also, I do not think the "prehistoric marshes" symbolize the fact that they are talking about the past because I do not think they are actually talking about the past. But I do think it stands for the fact that the two of them want to live in the past and pretend the last five years haven't happened.
Gillian C. P2
2/12/2014 10:13:17 am
The weather was a symbol that stood out to me in particular amongst several that were mentioned in the chapter. The weather is used to set up the mood,as well as to symbolize the emotions felt by both Gatsby and Daisy as they meet for the first time in 5 years. The pouring rain in the beginning of the meeting symbolizes and creates tension, along with an overwhelming sense of melancholy felt between the former couple. As the meeting goes on, the tension eases, as well as the weather. "The rain was still falling, but the darkness had parted in the west, and there was a pink and golden billow of foamy clouds above the sea"(94). Daisy notices this and says to Gatsby, "I'd like to just get one of these pink clouds and put you in it and push you around"(94). It's obvious that the emotions between Daisy and Gatsby have become more relaxed, with a slight sense of playfulness between the two. They're beginning to repair what once was broken for so long.
Rachel H. Period 4
2/13/2014 08:17:10 am
I completely agree with you, Gillian! I felt like the weather played an extremely important role in this part of the novel, because not only does it set up the mood, but it sets up the feelings of both Daisy and Gatsby. Like you said about the tension; it rained hard at first, but as things got easier, the rain died down, and even towards the end it says that Nick had gone "down the marble steps into the rain, leaving them there together" (Fitzgerald 96). Though the awkward feel was still there, as it was present with the rain, peace began to come, and Nick was able to leave them alone.
Jack M 1
2/12/2014 10:17:05 am
I think an interesting symbol that is overlooked is the weather, rainy before and when Daisy arrives, and goes away after Gatsby decides to man up and talk to Daisy like a normal person. Fitzgerald specifically writes "'It’s stopped raining.' 'Has it?' When he realized what I was talking about, that there were twinkle-bells of sunshine in the room, he smiled like a weather man, like an ecstatic patron of recurrent light, and repeated the news to Daisy. 'What do you think of that? It’s stopped raining.' This sun light is a symbol of the reappearance of love in the relationship, and it adds a cliche moment to this chapter.
Matt C. 1
2/13/2014 08:44:14 am
I agree with you but I think it is important to note that it began to rain again as soon Nick left Daisy and Gatsby alone at the end of the chapter. This could foreshadow Daisy and Gatsby's future together.
Jack M. 1
2/13/2014 10:43:35 am
Interesting idea Matt, and I agree. I did overlook that, and I think that is a great point, especially because Gatsby seems to have a problem with Tom (besides the fact that he is married to Daisy.) I will be looking to see how exactly that pans out.
Caitlin Collins Period 2
2/12/2014 10:23:42 am
In my opinion, one of the most significant symbols in chapter five is that is Daisy being portrayed as the green light. “Possibly it had occurred to him that the colossal significance of that light had now vanished forever. Compared to the great distance that had separated him from Daisy it had seemed very near to her, almost touching her. It had seemed as close as a star to the moon. Now it was again a green light on a dock. His count of enchanted objects had diminished by one.” (Fitzgerald 93) Daisy is that green light, a beacon of hope for Gatsby, something that he can always see, no matter how thick the fog is outside, or in his mind. Daisy is that green light that is so close, yet always slightly out of reach.
Hailey A. 2
2/12/2014 10:25:15 am
I think the weather is a symbol throughout chapter 5. It was the one thing that set the mood for the setting of the chapter. It was a very dramatic moment before Daisy arrives and it begins to rain heavily but once Gatsby finally talks to Daisy. Fitzgerald writes point blank "It's stopped raining". He wanted us to realize the change in weather which is a symbol for the mood.
I think a big symbol is the green light because it sybolizes Gatsby's envy to have Daisy. The fact that Its just across the bay for Gatsby and in front of Daisy to see shows the faint attraction between the two of them, it is like a burning ember that hasn't gone out between them. It will most likely come up again later in the book. The green light is like a beacon of hope for the two, but since it is a faint light I feel like it is likely to die like some hopes do.
Emylee F. Period 5
2/13/2014 05:29:37 am
I really love the connection you made about the light with being a burning ember. However, this symbol is mostly important to Gatsby. Do you believe that it holds the same meaning to Daisy?
Jordan T. P4
2/13/2014 09:04:34 am
I think somewhere in her it might, but yet because she's used to the richness of life maybe the green just means money, I don't think it's that simple nor vain though.
Nadim K. Period 2
2/12/2014 10:44:31 am
I think an important symbol that was revealed to us in chapter 5 was Gatsby's room. We find out that his room is the "The simplest of all"(Fitzgerald 101). I think that this shows how Gatsby is a very humble man and how internally, he is a very simple and is only showing his wealth in such a way to catch Daisy's attention.
Jordan T P.4
2/13/2014 09:11:11 am
I agree I think the room shows how Gatsby himself doesn't really care about the rich things but about how they will be seen when he shows them to Daisy. Gatsby probably does love the money but not as much as others. He is obviously willing to do anything to get the attention of Daisy and try to almost buy her back. In the end I don't believe they will work.
Gilton C.
2/12/2014 10:47:41 am
The color green appears more often in this chapter than any of the previous ones. It shows itself though descriptions about Nick’s lawn and money, but I think it doesn’t symbolize Gatsby’s wealth (like the Purple/Lavender worn by Roman Emperors). Later on when Gatsby, Daisy, and Nick are all outside looking past the mist, Gatsby announces that if it wasn’t for the mist the Green Light would signify Daisy’s home. Other colors like Red, Silver, Black, and yellow make a cameo appearance in the form of Gatsby’s luxurious shirts displaying to Daisy that he has it all. The Chapter also shows Daisy spotting a collision of Pink and Gold clouds which one can only assume represents them. The comment made on how the gray windows disappeared once Gatsby “flips the switch” foreshadows Nick’s escape into the rain at the end of the chapter.
Trevor K
2/12/2014 10:50:42 am
A symbol that I found to be prevalent and meaningful was the rain. On the day Gatsby planned to meet Daisy the rain was pouring. This rain symbolized doubt, hardships, and the emotional struggle faced by Gatsby and Daisy. The rain almost forces Gatsby to leave because it was "too late" and thought the rain had ruined it. The rain stopped however and Daisy came. The rain stopping symbolizes the end of their separation. When the rain stops Gatsby says asks Daisy, "'What do you think of that? It stopped raining'" Daisy responds and says, "'I'm glad, Jay.' Her throat, full of aching, grieving beauty, told only of her unexpected joy" (89). The rain stopping is symbolic of their emotional struggles apart from each other stopping. It is almost as if Daisy is saying "I am glad the waiting for you has stopped." The "twinkle-bells of sunshine" resembles a glimmer of hope to Daisy's and Gatsby's previously depressing and meaningless lives. The sunshine in chapter 5 represents the revival of their unquestioned love.
Trevor K 4
2/12/2014 10:51:34 am
Period 4
Angel A 5
2/13/2014 05:41:52 am
I agree that the rain is a major symbol in the chapter. The rain represented a awkward and melancholy moment during the chapter. However, when the rain stopped, it showed hope for Gatsby and Daisy, a new chapter in their lives.
Nadim K. Period 2
2/13/2014 11:13:21 am
I agree with you that the rain was a very important symbol in this part of the story because it helped us set the mood. The rain also helped us understand the feelings that were going through Gatsby and Daisy at the time.
Tyler Kol 5
2/12/2014 10:53:28 am
One significant symbol of the novel is Gatsby’s wealth. When daisy and Gatsby meet again and begin talking, he throws shirts, or wealthy possessions, at her. This is significant because Gatsby uses wealth throughout the novel as a way to impress daisy, hoping that one day she will see him living in luxury, and fall for him all over again. Daisy then begins to cry, because she does not search for wealth to lead her to love. Daisy almost leaves Tom (earlier in the novel) due to the fact that Gatsby writes to her. Daisy does not need money or wealth, but she does need the companionship of the one she loves, and that is Gatsby.
Jake S 4
2/12/2014 11:00:33 pm
I don't really see Gatsby's wealth as a "symbol". I do agree that he uses his wealth to show Daisy how successful he became in an effort to impress her, but this is not really a symbol.
Chris Q 1
2/13/2014 09:40:37 am
I agree with Jake, but I disagree with your statement on how Daisy seeks love and companionship. When she starts crying into Gatsby's shirts, she is mourning the loss of this greater wealth she could have had. Her true selfish nature is shown in this scene.
Jake S 4
2/13/2014 11:57:54 am
I have to say I disagree with you Chris with your use of the word "seeks". Although Daisy "wants" to find more meaning and love in her life, in no way has she sought it out at this point in the book. Instead she lives a very basic life with no real love or purpose at all.
Ryan C p4
2/12/2014 10:54:58 am
One of the symbols in chapter 5 is Gatsby's pool. It is first seen in chapter one, and at that point, readers do not know of its significance. Nick goes to visit Gatsby, who seems upset about something. He originally wants to go to Coney Island, but it is too late, so the two use Gatsby's pool which he "hadn't made use of all summer" (82). The pool symbolizes a release from all of his stress and what was bothering him, because later he finally musters up the courage to ask Daisy to come for tea the following day.
Jordan C.
2/13/2014 02:07:10 am
I would have to disagree with you Ryan that the symbol of Gatsby's pool is not the release of stress of what's bothering him to finally be able to get close to Daisy. The pool has only been mentioned a few times and it wasn't mentioned in chapter five but I see where you have thought that. The pool so far only symbolizes his wealth that he has gained. It almost symbolizes the thought or expression whether it's half full or half empty. It goes along with Gatsby's personality he is all about being the best and trying to get to the top of everything and everyone. He wants to feel better about himself that he never was able to experience as a child. I do see how you might have thought it was a release of stress, because water is known for this, but I think it needed to go deeper. Especially if he never used the pool all summer what stopped him from going in, was it the thought of losing some part of the water filling it or the displacement, just a thought to think about.
Tyler Ken. 1
2/13/2014 06:30:42 am
I believe that the pool can come to symbolize the unused luxuries that the wealthy own. Gatsby owns a lot of things, but most of them are unused in his home. The owl-eyed man in chapter 3 is astonished at the large amount of real books in Gatsby's library. He states " [ the books are] absolutely real - have pages and everything. I thought they'd be a nice durable cardboard"(50). While Gatsby contains this large library of books, I highly doubt that he actually had read all of them while quickly gaining the riches he now has. I feel that the pool it's just another symbol for the unused luxuries that the rich own.
Amber H. p4
2/13/2014 10:00:11 am
I like that you used his pool as a symbol, since it hasn't ready been used that often it's really good that you made this connection. But I have to lean more with Tyler on this, I don't think that it is a relief of stress because I believe that we don't even know that Gatsby had used it.
Ryan F. Period Two
2/12/2014 10:57:06 am
A big symbol in chapter 5 was the weather. When Daisy first arrived, it was raining and everything was very awkward between her and Gatsby. Eventually, when the rain subsided, so did the tension. Ironically, once the rain stopped falling outside, the tears started falling inside from Daisy.
Katelyn B Period 2
2/12/2014 11:43:45 am
I agree with the weather being a symbol of Gatsby's and Daisy's encounter for the first time in five years. However, I feel that there is a deeper meaning behind the weather than it just showing the awkward tension between the two. The rain starts off showing the awkward tension, but as it lightens up it is almost as if their past relationship started with a clean slate as their past was washed away by the rain. As the sun came out and the rain ceased a brighter more optimistic future for Gatsby's and Daisy's relationship shone, which was supported by the ease of tension and Gatsby's character change from a nervous wreck into a glowing/beaming confident person.
Bailey F p2
2/13/2014 12:15:55 am
I also agree with you that the weather is a big symbol in chapter 5, but I would have to also agree with Katelyn and her explanation of a deeper meaning. The rain did represent the tension and awkwardness between Gatsby and Daisy, but it also represents the washing away of their past relationship. It was the start of a new connection forming between the two of them. Once they got a little more comfortable witth each other, the sun started to shine. This represents the future that Gatsby and Daisy will have. The sun shows readers the confidence that Gatsby recieves, and the way he feels about how things will work out with Daisy.
Katelyn B Period 2
2/12/2014 11:04:39 am
A distinct symbol found within chapter 5 would be the old clock on Nick’s mantel. The clock signifies the value of time through Gatsby’s perspective and the hope to reconnect with Daisy and relive the past relationship they once had. Right before Gatsby headed out for war he told Daisy to wait for him and then sent another letter right before she married Tom to tell her that with a little more time and patience he will be everything Daisy could ever want in a man and more because she is his world. His strive to obtain time to work things out with Daisy is exposed when “ [Gatsby’s] head leaned back so far that it rested against the…clock…he turned and caught it with trembling fingers and set it back in place” (Fitzgerald 86). Gatsby prevents the clock from hitting the ground, implying the fact that he is afraid to lose even more valuable time with Daisy. The loss of their relationship has took such a toll on Gatsby that the potential to rejuvenate it back to what it used to be is the reason he continues to live; which is shown when Daisy exclaims that they have not seen each other in years and he immediately responds “Five years next November” (87) expressing just how invested he is in his affection for Daisy and the days he has been counting until they could one day reconnect. The fact that the clock is also old can symbolize that it is no longer running making it appear that time has figuratively “stopped” for the moment, which is when Gatsby and Daisy have their reunion and now have time to try and work things out after the five years of time that has been lost.
Caitlin Collins Period 2
2/12/2014 11:17:41 am
Katelyn, that's so true! Great comment, I completely agree with you in what you're saying with the fact that more than anything in the world, Gatsby wants to recconect with Daisy, I think that's a very important aspect of Chapter 5.
Mackenzie K. period 4
2/12/2014 11:10:20 am
The symbol I found in chapter 5 was the throwing of the shirts. Nick describes Gatsby "[taking] out a pile of shirts and...throwing them, one by one, before us, shirts of sheer linen and thick silk and fine flannel, which lost their folds as they fell and covered the table in many colored disarray," (Fitzgerald 92). With the description of the different types of shirts and then Daisy throwing herself on them sobbing symbolizes Daisy's recognition of the life that she could have with Gatsby. It also shows Gatsby's life being revealed. Gatsby's shirts were folded nicely but after he throws them around, Nick comments on how the folds were ruined and then we start to learn the truth about Gatsby.
Haley M (4)
2/13/2014 12:13:37 pm
I like the symbol of the shirts that you picked out. I also agree with the point you made about how the shirts represent the life she could have had with Gatsby. If she would have waited for him she would have gotten everything she wanted, her true love and a life of luxury.
Shelby D
2/12/2014 11:16:23 am
One small symbol I found interesting was Gatsby’s clothing. Gatsby came to Nick’s house dressed “in a white flannel suit, silver shirt, and gold-coloured tie” (Fitzgerald 69). I think that the clothing can be read as symbol for his new wealth. The obvious colors that represent this wealth are the silver and gold. Along with those two colors is the white, which can sometimes symbolize newness. This relates to Gatsby’s new found wealth. From this wealth he can now he can afford to wear white. This meaning he doesn't have to worry about getting his suit dirty, which, I believe, tells us a lot about the value of his wealth to him because he was living in a time where laundry was more difficult and it was harder to keep white items clean. Another reason I believe Fitzgerald used the color white is because it can also represent purity. This combination of wealth and purity is what Gatsby strives for in order to get back with Daisy.
Rachel VW period 5
2/12/2014 11:20:02 am
One of the important symbols that I found was the clock. In one of the scenes they describe Gatsby to have “turned and caught it with trembling fingers and set it back to place” (69). I think that this relates to Gatsby’s situation with Daisy and when he lost her. I think it can directly relate to Gatsby wanting time back in order to change who Daisy marries. He knows that Daisy isn’t happy and neither is he in their current life. But since he cant stop time, and he saves this clock it could represent him saving their time together and maybe he might get more time with her in the future.
Trevor K 4
2/13/2014 01:11:12 pm
I agree with you that the clock is very symbolic throughout the chapter. Gatsby wants to stop time and repeat the past (as mentioned in chapter 6). "His head leaned back so far that it rested against the face of a defunct mantelpiece clock... He turned and caught it with trembling fingers" (86). When he leans against the clock, he knocks it off and is going to the ground to shatter resembling the five years apart. However, he catches it symbolizing that there is still time and hope for him. I feel that the fact that the clock is broken can also resemble that time has failed Gatsby and he has suffered for a long five years.
Corey J 5
2/12/2014 11:20:07 am
Chapter 5 is obviously full of symbols. One I noticed to stand out a lot was the weather. It starts to rain in the chapter, creating sort of an awkward moment. Just as the sun comes out, this symbolizes Gatsby's and Daisy's love being reawakened. They realize they still have feelings for one another. Just as the rain is ending after their conversation, "[Gatsby's] hand took hold of [Daisy's], and as she said something low in his ear he turned toward her with a rush of emotion" (96).
Zak D 2
2/12/2014 11:35:19 am
I agree with you, Corey. The weather is directly related to the relationship that Gatsby and Daisy have. The rain symbolizes the troubles they have been through and only when the sun shines is when their relationship has become similar to what it was like before.
Elizabeth Z 2
2/12/2014 11:33:32 am
One of the symbols in Great Gatsby is the "toilet set of pure gold that was sitting on the dresser in Gatsby's room (Fitzgerald 91). When Daisy sees it, she immediately picked up the brush and started to brush her hair with it. The description of pure dull gold is symbolic of the rest of Gatsby's wealth. It is implied to the reader that he received much if not all of his money from shady, dishonest deals. So everything at he has is tainted by the ways that he got it. The gold is pure, he does actually have money, but it is also dull, he didn't earn it honestly.
In regards to how "Daisy took the brush with delight, and smoothed her hair", she does not see the dullness of Gastby's wealth (91). All that she sees is its beauty, and she is delighted by the fact that things could work between them no, just as she is delighted with the brush.
Harshita K 1
2/13/2014 08:10:40 am
I agree with your statement about how Daisy doesn't see the dullness of Gatsby's wealth Elizabeth. I really like how you connected the brush with the wealth when Daisy 'took the brush with delight, and smoothed her hair"(Fitzgerald 91).It's not love she possesses its lust.Gatsby trying to prove to Daisy that he has wealth now, something she may have have imagined he would never have and all his reasons for the inheritance comes from the strong desire to be with Daisy. It's not love for a person but for the wealth. When she sees the gold hair brush it just to show that her love before was based on her standards of wealth.Great comment and symbol with great support.
Haley M(4)
2/12/2014 11:34:55 am
A symbol used in chapter five was the rain. At the beginning of chapter five Gatsby and Nick planned to have Daisy over for tea. On the day Daisy was coming over, it was raining and Gatsby seemed nervous and scared. When Daisy finally arrived and her and Gatsby reconnected, Gatsby still felt a little embarrassed and nervous. Nick left the room and when he returned Daisy had been crying and Gatsby looked different. He was glowing. Nick announces "It's stopped raining" (Fitzgerald 89). The rain seemed to seize when Gatsby was relaxed and happy with how things were going. Gatsby was satisfied with how things with Daisy were going. The rain helped symbolize what was going through Gatsby's mind on that day.
Elainie K 1
2/13/2014 12:31:16 pm
I completely agree with you Haley! I think the weather is an excellent representation of both Daisy and Gatsby's feelings when they are reunited. When Daisy and Gatsby are arranged to meet up together, the text states that "the day agreed upon was pouring rain" (Fitzgerald 83). This unpleasant weather represents the unresolved feelings and tension between the two old acquaintances. Later on, when the two have talked and familiarized themselves with each other, Gatsby says, "It's stopped raining" (Fitzgerald 89) and further down it states, "there were twinkle-bells of sunshine in the room" (Fitzgerald 89). The contrasting weather conditions represent the relationship growing between Daisy and Gatsby.
Mark M. 5
2/12/2014 11:35:05 am
Probably one of the most important symbols throughout the entire book is the green light, and it is explained more in chapter 5. I took the green light as representing things of value. After talking to Daisy about the green light, Gatsby ponders, "Possibly it had occurred to him that the colossal significance of that light had now vanished forever." When we want something it's value in our mind is very high though once we get it, it loses value. I believe this is what Gatsby is feeling when he finally has Daisy. It may be foreshadowing as well because once you lose the thing you once coveted, it goes up in value again.
Ashlee P. 5
2/12/2014 11:35:42 am
The first symbol I see in Chapter five that really stands out to me is the weather. The weather can change dramatically in novels and in movies to portray or symbolize the emotions during that time. When Daisy first shows up to Nick house to the surprise Gatsby encounter, "the exhilarating ripple of her voice was a wild tonic in the rain. i had to follow the sound of it for a moment," (Fitzgerald e-reader). The rain is coming down so hard that Nick can barely hear Daisy's voice. Rain sometimes can happen suddenly and last only for a little while and that reflects the confusing nature of this reunion. Gatsby does not know if the relationship he had with Daisy will be the same as it was in Louisville and Daisy does not know why Nick is inviting her over or that Gatsby will be there. The characters are already under so much stress and the bad weather only adds to the uneasiness.
Chris Q 1
2/12/2014 11:36:56 am
When Gatsby is showing Daisy around his house "He took out a pile of shirts and began throwing them" (Fitzgerald 5). I believe that this is a symbol for Gatsby throwing away morality to gain his wealth. He throws the shirts without care to show off to Daisy. This is very similar to throwing his morals aside in the pursuit of wealth.
Shelby D 5
2/13/2014 08:43:30 am
I agree with the idea that the shirt throwing scene has to do with throwing away morals in order to gain his wealth. However, I think that more importantly the scene describes the unveiling of Gatsby's intentions. The shirts are described as "[losing] their folds as they fell" (Fitzgerald 76). This portrays to us the idea that all Gatsby has worked for and the gaining of all his wealth is finally being unfolded for Daisy to see.
Mark M. 5
2/13/2014 11:58:16 am
While I can see this point being very true, I took it more as Gatsby being the opposite of Tom. Gatsby grew up poor and understands the value of the money that went to buying those shirts, while Tom wouldn't think twice about it (or throwing the shirts in the first place). I see Gatsby as more of Tom's opposite.
Hannah B P1
2/12/2014 11:38:02 am
I think that Gatsby’s shirts serve as important symbolism in the chapter. It is present as Gatsby “took out a pile of shirts and began throwing them, one by one, before us, shirts of sheer linen and thick silk and fine flannel, which lost their folds as they fell and covered the table in many-colored disarray…Suddenly, with a strained sound, Daisy bent her head into the shirts and began to cry stormily,” (Fitzgerald 92). Gatsby’s shirts represent new life and opportunities for Daisy. Since Tom is having a very public affair, Daisy feels like her life is pointless and dreary. As she enters Gatsby’s house, she feels excitement for the first time, but then realizes that she could’ve had this amazing life with Gatsby and compares it to her life with Tom, causing her to become upset. It reminds her of the memories she had in her past life with Gatsby. Her reaction of crying displays that the beautiful, monogramed shirts give her a sense of regret.
Zak D 2
2/12/2014 11:39:11 am
A symbol that I found in chapter five was the weather. It represent the relationship that Daisy and Gatsby have. The rain represents the nervousness an awkwardness that they have towards each other. After a while “the sun shone again” (93). The sun shining symbolizes how Gatsby and Daisy’s love is restored. The shining sun gives daisy and Gatsby a bright future.
Bri D. P2
2/13/2014 10:05:32 am
I agree with you about the weather. It plays a big role in the chapter and I like how the sun comes out when the tension rises. Also, I like how you connected the sun shine with the love Gatsby and Daisy have.
Noelle S- Period 4
2/12/2014 11:46:54 am
The main symbol that stuck out to me in chapter 5 was the weather. Throughout the beginning of the chapter it rains and then finally, on page 88, it says "after a half an hour, the sun shone again..." (Fitzgerald). At first, while it is raining, Gatsby’s reunion with Daisy is terribly awkward. Gatsby knocks Nick’s clock over and tells Nick sorrowfully that the meeting was a mistake. After he leaves the two alone for half an hour, Nick returns to find them radiantly happy—Daisy shedding tears of joy and Gatsby glowing. Outside, the rain has stopped, and Gatsby invites Nick and Daisy over to his house, where he shows them his possessions. When the rain finally stops and the sun comes out I feel like this is Daisy and Gatsby's relationship being reawakened.
Ali D 4
2/13/2014 02:31:58 am
I agree with you on how significant the weather is. When I think of movies there is usually a scene with raining after a upsetting moment. But when things get better again the sun is usually back out. Weather relates a lot to emotion and I think Fitzgerald did a great job by using weather as a symbol in this context. I did like that how at the end of their awkward greeting the rain stopped because of how well they were doing. This could be a sign of how they continue to talk too, hopefully the sun always stays out for their relationship.
Vasudha P. Period 1
2/13/2014 11:50:52 am
Noelle I agree with you but I also believe that the clock represents Gatsby's wish to go back in time before Daisy was married. I think the clock instead symbolizes all the time Gatsby used up amassing a fortune only to finally meet Daisy five years later. Up until the point Gatsby meets Daisy again he lives in a fantasy world, with all his aspirations focused on creating the perfect moment for meeting Daisy. Nick comments that Gatsby had, "thrown himself into it with a creative passion, decking it out with every bright feather that drifted his way" (101). Now five years later he realizes that he wasted all that time lusting over Daisy when he should have been interacting with her. His vision of Daisy became larger than life, becoming more grand than Daisy in real life.
Shivam P. period 2
2/12/2014 11:47:07 am
The symbol I chose was all of Gatsby's clothes that he was flinging around at Daisy. This scene resembles a cluster of emotions not only for Gatsby, but for Daisy as well. She has all the wealth in the world, but isn't happy in her marriage. She didn't marry Gatsby because he didn't have much wealth when they were together. Now that Gatsby has all this money, he is showing her that money doesn't matter, but that love should
Chandler S. Period 5
2/12/2014 11:59:09 am
One of the most prevalent symbols in chapter five is the green light. We first saw it in chapter 1 at the very end when we saw the green light, then Gatsby disappeared. On of the first things he says to Daisy is "you always have a green light that burns all night at the end of your dock" and it goes on to say that it accorded to both Daisy and Gatsby that "the great distance that separated them" was not very great at all. Gatsby knew this all along, he knew what the green light was, he knew it was Daisy's house, he never had the courage to acknowledge it or her. She on the other hand had no idea that was Gatsby's house. One river practically separates them and the river has it's own symbol and that's the journey of life and time. Life has deprecated them, but Gatsby know that she's right there, she's so close to him, but neither one of them are there yet. Eventually they see each other again, just as the green light won't stay on forever.
Ali D 4
2/12/2014 11:59:27 am
I think that the green light is a huge symbol in The Great Gatsby in the way that it shows that Gatsby has worked so hard to get where he is now to only try and get his love, Daisy, back in his life. In chapter four he stood and just wished for her back in his life while looking at the green light. The green light is at her dock and he has built up enough money to move by her with an extravagant home to try and get her to leave Tom and be with him once again. The green light shows that everything he is doing and has done is a reach out to finding Daisy and bringing her back into his life even though she has married Tom. The green light is very significant to the story line and the love between Daisy and Gatsby.
Noelle S- Period 4
2/13/2014 09:46:05 am
I totally agree with you on this Ali. To Gatsby, the green light represents his dream, which is Daisy. To attain her would be completing Gatsby’s American Dream. The first time the green light is seen in the novel is also the first time Nick sees Gatsby. Fitzgerald writes, “…he stretched out his arms toward the dark water in a curious way, and, far as I was from him, I could have sworn he was trembling. Involuntarily I glanced seaward – and distinguished nothing except a single green light, minute and far away…” The green light is described as ‘minute and far away’ which makes it appear impossible to reach. This will prove to be true for Gatsby because it is becoming impossible to get Daisy over to his house for one of is get parties.
Andrea B 2
2/13/2014 12:45:13 pm
I agree with the green light being s symbol. I think another big symbol that I noticed was the change in the weather. As Gatsby grew more and more nervous, the harder it would start to rain. The more he loosened up about being around daisy and started calming down, the sun would then appear.
Melissa S. 2
2/12/2014 11:59:35 am
There are multiple symbols present in chapter 5, but there were a few that really stood out to me. The first one that I noticed was the grass. Gatsby states "'I want to get the grass cut'" (Fitzgerald 82). Then Nick explains that "there was a sharp line where my ragged lawn ended and the darker, well-kept expanse of his began. I suspected that he meant my grass" (82). Gatsby's wanting to even out the grass on the two lawns could symbolize him tearing down his walls and wishing to truly open up to Daisy once she arrives. Another symbol that I noticed was the weather. While the rain was falling, everything seemed to be falling apart. Everyone was awkward and embarrassed to speak, but once the rain stopped and the sunlight finally shone through, Daisy dried her tears and everyone was in a better mood. I also noticed that Gatsby's extravagant and multi-colored shirts were a symbol. Daisy says "'They're such beautiful shirts... It makes me sad because I've never seen such--such beautiful shirts before" (92). Daisy's reaction to the shirts could symbolize what she could have had, had she gone with Gatsby instead of Tom. They could also symbolize her re-connection with Gatsby and how truly happy she is about seeing him again.
Andrea B (period 2)
2/12/2014 12:00:42 pm
A big symbol I noticed over the course of chapter 5 is the rain. At the beginning when Gatsby was about to pee his pants from being so nervous meeting Daisy, it was pouring. The more he thought about it, the more apprehensive he grew and the harder and more violent the rain would start to come down. Once the tension kind of went away, and they were starting to talk normally, the sun started showing. Although there was still a little rain, which meant Gatsby was still a little nervous to be around Daisy. Another thing I noticed was the clock. The clock was working, as the time went by they had not seen each other, 5 years. Then all of a sudden, once they're together and talking, the clock falls and breaks on the ground. This may symbolize that although it had been fine before, ticking until they met again, now the clock is broken, and they will have all the time in the world with each other now. I'll be bold and say that I foreshadow that Daisy is going to end up back TOGETHER together with Gatsby, whether she's still married to Tom or not.
Jelani P 2
2/13/2014 01:21:59 pm
I do not recall Gatsby about to pee his pants, but I agree with your comments on the rain. The rain seems to correspond with Gatsby's anxiety level, and for the first time, we see a nervous Gatsby. However, the clock never actually broke, Gatsby catching was symbolic of him attempting to save time and preserve the moment.
James J: 2
2/12/2014 12:01:02 pm
Within chapter 5, the symbol that I found most interesting was the clock. I feel that the clock symbolizes the past, because it was when Gatsby was trying to reconnect with Daisy that he first ran into it. When taken literally, I interpreted it as "Gatsby tries to reconnect with Daisy, and in doing comes in contact with the past." I also think that Gatsby stopping the clock from shattering is symbolic of him stopping time so that he can live and enjoy the moment with Daisy. The other time reference that I caught was towards the end of the chapter when Nick describes that Gatsby, "was running down like and overwound clock" (Fitzgerald 92). Because this is the last of the time references in the chapter, I think that this is the point in which Gatsby realizes that the time he had stopped at the beginning was starting to move again, and that Daisy would have to leave soon; this causes him to panic, and to decide to try and impress Daisy with his vast array of shirts, which is odd and not very well thought through, but affective.
Monica E Period 1
2/13/2014 11:57:37 am
I agree with you, James. The clock has a deep and symbolic meaning because it keeps appearing in the story. I feel that Gatsby is always feeling rushed to do something, as if he is trying to catch a train. He feels that if he does not take action right away, he will lose Daisy again. Daisy, although married, feels the same way.
Corey K. (period 5)
2/12/2014 12:07:11 pm
Taking into consideration all the symbols in chapter five, I believe the clock is the most significant. While awkwardly standing while having tea with Nick and Daisy, Gatsby put pressure on the clock to the point where it was falling until "he turned around and caught it with trembling fingers and set it back in place" (86). This whole instances symbolizes Gatsby sole purpose in becoming wealthy, throwing parties and reaching out to Daisy. He wants to put time back in the place it should be: when he a Daisy loved each other and there wasn't a care in the world. This symbol is important because it shows a deeper side of Gatsby personality and sets up the rest of the novel perfectly.
Becca K
2/13/2014 08:45:20 am
I agree with your ideas, but to me the clock had a different meaning. I believe the clock represented how time was standing still in that moment because it was a "defunct mantelpiece clock" (Fitzgerald 86), it was broken. It represents how time stood still for Gatsby during all of those years he waited and waited for an opportunity to reconnect with Daisy. I think time in general also is a big symbol later on in the chapter when Gatsby was "running down like an overwound clock" (Fitzgerald 92), all of those years time stopped waiting for Daisy, are all rushing back at once.
Chandler Stich Period 5
2/13/2014 09:39:11 am
Great point Corey. I think it is hard to overlook that symbol. I don't really know how to take it however. It is clear that Gatsby was uncomfortable when the clock is mentioned, but I think it's anxiousness than awkwardness. You mentioned he wants I put time back in its place, but that's not how I took it. I see it as he wants to freeze time and embrace the moment when he see Daisy again. I think he wants to start time over and take back all the time they went without each other, not do it all again. It's hard to say about Gatsby because frankly I think he has one soul purpose in life and that is Daisy. He loves her and he wants to spend more time with her but I think he feels the need to hold himself back from going for her abruptly.
Stephanie Brown; period 5
2/12/2014 12:09:07 pm
A symbol that struck me as significant is the light in Gatsby’s house. When Nick returned home, he saw that Gatsby’s house was ablaze. The light was so intense; it made Nick fear that his own home was on fire. In this instance, the light has a negative connotation to it because he was afraid that something bad was happening. Fitzgerald could have intended this as a way of foreshadowing destructive events in future chapters. Fire is also symbolic of passion and may represent Gatsby’s love for Daisy and his desire for his love to be reciprocated. In contrast, the light also represents Gatsby’s home as a place of riotous fun and entertainment, as suggested by Nick’s comparison to the World’s Fair. Fitzgerald may have also intended for the light to represent the artificiality of the lifestyle Gatsby and many of the rich people share because the lights flickered “on and off again as if the house had winked into darkness”, beyond Gatsby’s control (81). Fitzgerald’s reference to the lights “wink[ing] into the darkness” shows even the party has its end, the lavish lifestyle that Gatsby and many others share will figuratively die, and reality will set in. I also found that Nick’s statement, “It’s too late”, in response to Gatsby’s suggestion that they go to Coney Island was prophetic: it foreshadows the finality of the indulgent, lavish lifestyle that the upper-class possesses, and the choices the characters have made and will make are irreversible.
Stephanie B; period 5
2/12/2014 12:13:53 pm
I feel the aspect that the choices the characters have made in the novel are irreversible especially apply to Daisy and here decision to marry Tom, even though she has loved Gatsby all along. I feel that she is trapped in this life with Tom and it will be difficult, if not impossible, to free herself from it. Her choice will follow her, and she will never be able to truly have the life with Gatsby she always dreamed of.
Chris B 5
2/12/2014 12:09:09 pm
With out a doubt the biggest symbol I saw in the text was the rain. The rain symbolized Gatsby's overcoming of fears. When it first stopped after it “was pouring rain” (Fitzgerald 88) he is talking with Daisy and is almost his own happy self again. But then he starts to get nervous as he takes the next few steps in the relationship and it starts to mist outside again.
Ambreen M (period 1)
2/12/2014 12:10:04 pm
The green light is a representation of Gatsby's goal of winning Daisy back and his hopes and dreams for the future. He would reach out towards it as if.. "Compared to the great distance that had separated him from Daisy it had seemed very near to her, almost touching her" (Fitzgerald 93). A so close yet so far type of Idea, there but hard to reach.
Ryan D 5
2/12/2014 12:27:36 pm
One of the major symbols in chapter 5 and throughout the novel is the green light. Gatsby looks at the light and sees his dream with a life with Daisy. When Gatsby was talking to Daisy about the light, she slid into his arms and "the colossal significance of that light had now vanished forever" (Fitzgerald). The light could of been a symbol of Gatsbys hopes with Dasiy and as soon as she began to love him again, the lights symbolic power vanished for Gatsby.
Jelani P 2
2/12/2014 12:27:49 pm
I think Gatsby mansion is a major theme in the novel. It represents the 1920's in a way because it is so massive and grand yet it is so empty, Daisy comments on it saying, "That huge place there? ... I don't see how you live in there all alone." Gatsby responds with, "I keep it always full with interesting people," (Fitzgerald 90). The mansion is almost like a typical 1920's upper class person, very wealthy, but lacks content on the inside which means they must resort to filling itself with superficial objects or superficial people in the mansions case.
Amanna V (4)
2/12/2014 01:57:23 pm
That's a really interesting way to see Gatsby's mansion. At first, I didn't pay much importance towards the mansion, but after reading the quote you mentioned above, Daisy's comment is even more symbolic. I agree that many people in the 1920's are very superficial and use objects, wealth, and even strangers to fill up an emptiness inside of them. They want to feel important and smart, but no matter how much they cheat it, they still feel empty inside.
Eric F 1
2/12/2014 12:28:55 pm
Gatsby's mad skills when he catches the clock after admiring it represents how he finally meets Daisy after all these years of waiting and is both excited, intrigued, and afraid. Yet his capture of it shows that he will certainly survive despite adversity.
Kathryn P 2
2/12/2014 12:29:26 pm
I believe that the raining was a prominent symbol in this chapter. I believe that the rain was nature's way of telling Gatsby how much time he had to get Daisy during the tea party. For each time they wanted to go outside, the rain kept them inside, except one time, where Gatsby invited Nick and Daisy to see his house. The rain was doing two things. One, it was pushing and setting a deadline for Gatsby to make his move with Daisy. Two, rain and sunshine resemble beginning of new life and happiness, which is what scene is set finally in the end of the fifth chapter.
Scott A. 5th
2/12/2014 12:39:01 pm
I think that the weather represented Gatsby and Daisy's relationship. The chapter begins with a rainy gloomy day which represents the sadness the two characters present. Their love was lost. When the two reconnect the weather cleared up and "twinkle-bells of sunshine in the room" ( 89). This demonstrates happiness and a bright future.
Casey Dowdle 4
2/12/2014 12:39:57 pm
One significant symbol within the chapter is the green light. The reader is first introduced with this symbol in chapter one, when Gatsby is seen stretching his arms toward the water and the direction of the green light. Now in chapter 5 the reader realizes that the green light comes from Daisy's house. It represents the distance between Gatsby and Daisy before they were able to reunite. Although Daisy was just across the water from Gatsby, she seemed just out of reach from Gatsby, separated by an emotional wall and a seemingly impossible distance for Gatsby to traverse. After Daisy and Gatsby meet again in chapter five the green light looses its significance. No longer is Daisy out of reach from Gatsby, the emotional barrier that separated them being broken down. Now the green light is simply a green light and, "his count of enchanted objects had diminished by one" (98).
TJ A. period 2
2/12/2014 12:41:49 pm
I think one important symbol in chapter 5 is the grass. The grass, in a sense, can represent the emotions running through Gatsby's head right before Daisy arrives. You can tell that whenever Gatsby mentions the grass, he is actually thinking about Daisy as, "He looked out the window at it, but, judging from his expression, I don't believe he saw a thing (Fitzgerald 84). This reveals how deeply grained into his life Daisy is, to the point where it isn't even a topic that he could freely discuss aloud at the time, yet threw his entire life in search for her.
Monica E. Period 1
2/12/2014 12:43:40 pm
I feel that the symbol that stood out to me was the clock. I believe that the clock is symbolizing how Gatsby always feels that he is running out of time, that it is too late for him to win Daisy. Fitzgerald shows Gatsby's different character as he is around Daisy, uncomfortable, and slightly in a daze. "...he was running down like an overwound clock" (Fitzgerald 92). The literal meaning of this quote is that Gatsby fell as he was mesmerized by Daisy. However, this also implies that Gatsby's is a man that rushes for everything; and does not stop to smell the roses.
Paulette D. Period 5
2/13/2014 09:18:07 am
I agree with you, Monica that the clock is a pretty important symbol in the chapter, but I disagree that it represents Gatsby running out of time. Fitzgerald infers that the clock is broken; symbolizing that during the time Gatsby and Daisy spent apart, both their lives felt as if it was not moving forward. Daisy and Gatsby, both have imagined what their lives would have been like together for so long. Fitzgerald states, “… we all believed for a moment that [the clock] had smashed in pieces on the floor” (Fitzgerald 87). This statement is referring to the time being away from each other is erased, because they were finally reunited.
Paula R. Period 5
2/12/2014 12:45:47 pm
In this chapter, I think that there are many symbols that stand out and refer back to the beginning of the book, such as the green light, or symbols that have just surfaced, such as the shirts, or symbols that have been in front of our faces this entire time, Gatsby's house. I personally think that the shirts can be interpreted in many different ways. While touring Nick and Daisy through his house, Gatsby shows them his bedroom and filled with excitement "took out a pile of shirts and began throwing them, one by one, before [Nick and Daisy" (Fitzgerald 92), The shirts symbolized his wealth because they weren't just ordinary shirts they were "shirts of sheer linen and thick silk and fine flannel" that even to present day are quite expensive. Since Daisy is now paying attention to him, he wanted to show her his wealth, that he was now as successful as Tom. Gatsby wanted to prove that Daisy could now leave Tom because he could now buy her everything Tom can, and also Gatsby can now impress Daisy's mother. I think that Daisy is also genuinely happy that Gatsby is wealthy, but is upset that no one realized his potential when she said, "I've never seen such-such beautiful shirts before." (qtd. in 92)
James J.Period 2
2/13/2014 12:43:31 pm
I agree with you, Paula, that Gatsby uses his shirts to show Daisy his wealth. I think that Daisy breaks down like that because she realizes that she could have waited for Gatsby instead of marrying Tom, for Gatsby could have given her not only the wealthy lifestyle that she is used to, but also the love she craves but doesn't get from Tom. Another detail that I caught was when Daisy says, "I've never seen such-such beautiful shirts before" (Fitzgerald 92). I think that through this quotation, the reader is also able to infer that Gatsby is more wealthy than Tom is, which could influence Daisy's decision on whether she leaves Tom for Gatsby.
Yousuf A Period 5
2/12/2014 12:46:11 pm
I think that one of the most major symbols are the shirts.
The shirts represent Gatsby's enormous wealth and just one of the many fine objects that he could be using to pull Daisy in. As Gatsby pulls the shirts out, Daisy says "They're such beautiful shirts" (Fitzgerald 92). One of the reasons Daisy is crying is because she realizes she could of had a grand, prestigious, famous, and much better life with Gatsby than with Tom. She also could be crying because she may be realizing that the once "poor" Gatsby is now swimming in pools of wealth, which is, in a way, what Daisy wanted since the begging. She seems to be shocked by his amount of wealth and is hit with a rush of jealousy. In that moment it is as if she regrets that she got married with Tom instead of Gatsby. Also, she could be noticing that she made a huge mistake by marrying Tom because with Gatsby she could have been living in a much more valuable and enjoyable life.
Scott A.
2/13/2014 12:45:49 pm
Yousuf, I completely agree with your view on what the shirts represent. Daisy married Tom for his wealth but once Gatsby revealed his shirts she realized that she made a huge mistake. Gatsby's shirts in my mind represent a vibrant lifestyle. His life is full of excitment and adventure. Tom is a boring person to Daisy and she realized at that moment, she had made the wrong choice. Gatsby turned out to be the man of her dreams; he had wealth, excitment, and adventure in his life.
Stefan C. Per. 5
2/13/2014 12:57:53 pm
I dont agree with your idea of the shirts being a way for Gatsby to "pull her in". I don't agree with it because Daisy is already sold on Gatsby, she always has been. Lets not forget that Daisy was prepared to just forget about Tom and the wedding just because of the letter that was sent form Gatsby saying how if she waited they would be together. I think this is a pivotal moment because Daisy realizes that she could have had all of the wealth she has with Tom, except with someone she actually loves.
Elainie K 1
2/12/2014 12:51:02 pm
One symbol I find to be of great importance in chapter 5 is the throwing of the shirts. Fitzgerald goes into great detail about the shirts, creating an image of expensive clothing made out of fine and delicate fabrics, suggesting class and wealth. I believe the shirts represent Gatsby's growing wealth. It says, "he took out a pile of shirts and began throwing them, one by one... While we admired he brought more and the soft rich heap mounted higher" (Fitzgerald 92). This is a great representation of how Gatsby's lifestyle has been in the last few years leading up to now. Everything Gatsby has done since meeting Daisy has been to impress her. His wealth and power continuously expands while Daisy looks on in admiration, just as Daisy is astounded by the mountain of shirts.
Daisy O. Period 4
2/13/2014 09:36:45 am
I totally agree, Elainie! Gatsby is definitely using his fancy shirts to impress Daisy. I like how you compared the actual act of throwing fancy shirts to Gatsby’s current lifestyle. He spends so much money on fancy parties every weekend and buys clothes from England. He is throwing shirts and throwing away money to show Daisy everything he has to offer. The shirts “lost their folds as they fell and covered the table in many-colored disarray” (73). He is so desperate to show Daisy that he is worthy that he, himself, is losing his folds.
Anna W. 1st
2/12/2014 12:55:01 pm
One small symbol that stood out to me is Gatsby's clothes, specifically his shirts and how he treats them. When they all go back to Gatsby's house, he tries to show them off to Daisy to show her how wealthy he is now, because he can afford such luxuries. Daisy is so emotional that she sobs as she sees them, "They're such beautiful shirts," she sobbed, her voice muffled in the thick folds. "It makes me sad because I've never seen such--such beautiful shirts before," (92). I think this could very much demonstrate how unhappy Daisy is with her marriage, and of course, how unhappy Gatsby is alone. He just throws the shirts around showing them to her because he does not care about how much they are worth, he only wants to impress her. I don't think Daisy is sad because the shirts are so beautiful, I think it's more because she realizes here that she could have had a fulfilling life with someone that she actually loved (Gatsby).
Imani B. 5
2/17/2014 10:04:36 am
I had the same thoughts! I figured that Daisy was not only crying because of how beautiful Gatsby's clothes were, or how wealthy he had become, I think that her tears brought out the truth of how unhappy she was in her marriage. I think that Daisy is going to eventually end up leaving Tom and going back to Gatsby later in the novel.
Daisy O. Period 4
2/12/2014 12:57:47 pm
Gatsby’s shirts are a symbol. These are fancy shirts that Gatsby uses to show off to Daisy. He tells her that he as a “man in England who buys me clothes” (74). Gatsby is trying to prove to Daisy through his shirt that he has wealth now, and that he is worthy of her. I think the more significant part of the shirts also has to deal with Daisy crying. “‘They’re just beautiful shirts,’ she sobbed, her voice muffled in the thick folds. ‘It makes me sad because I’ve never seen such-such beautiful shirts” (74). She is crying because she loves the shirts. She loves being with Gatsby. She is sincerely happy with her life at this point, but knows she cannot be with Gatsby because she is already married to Tom. The shirts allow Daisy to have strong emotions, and prove that she still has feelings for Gatsby.
Joe S. Period 1
2/13/2014 04:35:17 am
I really like how you connect the shirts to Gatsby trying to prove to Daisy that he has wealth now, something she may have have imagined he would never have. I also agree to the relation of the second quote to the love she has for him, but that she can't possibly have anymore. By her saying "They're just beautiful shirts" (Fitzgerald 74) I think that she is realizing that she may have made a mistake by marrying Tom, while if she have had married Gatsby, she might of had a more valuable life to this point.
Stephanie B; period 5
2/13/2014 11:08:48 am
I completely agree with you that Gatsby's shirts represent all the wealth he is gained over the years, and he is using the shirts to prove to her that he is worthy of her. The scene where Daisy comments on the "beautiful shirts" Gatsby has is an extremely significant moment, especially to her. The way she fusses over the shirts tells us that she is not simply referring to the shirts necessarily, since Tom is wealthy, therefore, she has seen expensive shirts before. I feel at this moment, Daisy realizes that Gatsby was just as capable of acquiring as much wealth as Tom, and she is truly regretting her decision to marry Tom because she sees that not only could she have had the wealth, but she could have also had a life with the man she truly loved. She cries because she realizes that, figuratively speaking, Gatsby is the "whole package".
Alayna D. Period 1
2/12/2014 12:58:13 pm
A symbol that stuck out to me was the green light. The reader is first introduced with this symbol in chapter one, when Gatsby is seen stretching his arms toward the water and the direction of the green light. Now in chapter 5 the reader realizes that the green light comes from Daisy's house. It represents the distance between Gatsby and Daisy before they were able to reunite. Although Daisy was just across the water from Gatsby, she seemed just out of reach from Gatsby, separated by an emotional wall and a seemingly impossible distance for Gatsby to traverse. After Daisy and Gatsby meet again in chapter five the green light looses its significance. No longer is Daisy out of reach from Gatsby, the emotional barrier that separated them being broken down. Now the green light is simply a green light and, "his count of enchanted objects had diminished by one" (98).
Mackenzie K. period 1
2/13/2014 11:58:58 am
I would agree with you Alayna! Gatsby is far away from Daisy and he sees the green light to symbolize that. But I also think that the green light does not completely loose its significance. After Daisy and Gatsby meet, there relationship is still far from where it used to be. I think that green light symbolizes Gatsby and Daisy's relationship and the distance between it going back to normal.
Hannah B P1
2/13/2014 12:02:02 pm
I agree with you; the green light serves as a link between Daisy and Gatsby. Going off of that idea, I also think that the green light could represent Gatsby’s hopes and dreams for the future as he tries to win her back. Like you said about it appearing in chapter one, he reaches toward it in the darkness as a guiding light to lead him to his goal, his true love Daisy. Gatsby’s desire need for her in a sense also connects back to the modernists’ element of the “American dream” because he is seeking out a perfect life, but has to encounter barriers on the way.
Caleb S, Period 5
2/12/2014 12:58:58 pm
The Green Light is first mentioned in chapter 1 and I think it initially represented Gatsby’s longing love for Daisy. She is essentially the Green Light and Gatsby was looking at the Green Light from a distance the same he used to look at Daisy. With all of the things we have come to know we can see that Gatsby is no longer looking at Daisy from a distance. Daisy now knows that Gatsby lives near her and I think that gives him hope. He says “You always have a green light that burns all night at the end of your dock” (Fitzgerald 92). Daisy is figuratively the Green Light and it now can represent Gatsby’s hopes and dreams for the future. Which I think can play in the possibility that in up coming chapters something will happen between Gatsby and Daisy that will drastically change something’s within the novel.
Imani B 5
2/12/2014 12:59:22 pm
I also thought that the shirts were a symbol in the novel. I thought that they represented the wealth that Gatsby had inherited that he was trying to show off to Daisy to make her come back to him. Since he knows that Daisy is already married to a wealthy man, he tries to show her that he is also wealthy and can take care of her, he is basically trying to "win her over" and I think that is important as the story progresses.
Justin C Period 2
2/12/2014 01:03:00 pm
One of the symbols in this chapter thy was mentioned, were the phrases about the "rain". " It's stopped raining...has it... When he realized what I was talking about, that there were twinkle-bells of sunshine in the room"(89). The "rain" in this quote refers to the awkwardness that was in the room with Daisy and Gatsby when they first reunited again.
Kevin H P4
2/12/2014 01:08:08 pm
When Gatsby was giving the tour of his house, he "took out a pile of shirts and began throwing them, one by one, before us" I think that the shirts in Gatsby's closet are representative of all of his experiences and the changes/extremes that he has undergone over the past five years in order to get Daisy back. It describes how the shirts are all different patterns and colors, just like Gatsby. Gatsby, over the last five years had been anything that he needed to be in order to get back to Daisy. I also think that this is why Daisy begins crying "'They're such beautiful shirts,' she sobbed, her voice muffled in the hick fold. 'It makes me sad because I've never seen such-- such beautiful shirts before" (92) She is crying because she has never experienced that kind of love and appreciation in her life with Tom.
TJ A. period 2
2/13/2014 12:56:19 pm
Woah Kevin, that actually makes a ton of sense bro. As he throws out the shirts from the dresser it's almost like he's revealing how many times he's changed and the people he has become for Daisy. It is even more impactful as it is a stark contrast to the nonchalant behavior Tom has towards his marriage.
Trevor B P4
2/12/2014 01:16:25 pm
The clock was a very important symbol that stood out for me. The clock took upon symbolizing how Gatsby doesn't have the time to get Daisy back, that the seconds are just ticking away and that he doesn't have control. Gatsby acts differently around Daisy as in uncomfortable and how "...he was running down like an overwound clock" (Fitzgerald 92). Gatsby stresses himself out so much worrying about the time he has left to win over Daisy and doesn't give himself the time of day to enjoy himself and Daisy's presence.
Rose A P4
2/12/2014 01:19:44 pm
A big symbol in chapter five is the green light. In other chapters, the green light represented a new beginning for a hope of a future with Daisy. “You always have a green light that burns all night at the end of your dock” (Fitzgerald 92) Gatsby was staring at the green light and dreaming about a future with his love Daisy, but really this green light represents the true distance between them both, emotionally and physically. The green light that he saw once before as a spark of a new life, is now simply just a green light "the colossal significance of that light had now vanished forever" (93).
Josh S. 5
2/12/2014 01:20:32 pm
I believe that a very important symbol in chapter 5 is Gatsby's clothes. Gatsby starts throwing around all of his clothes out of his dresser obviously with the intentions of impressing Daisy. The clothes were made of silk and were the most elegant of colors and really represent the wealth that Gatsby has. It was very significant when Daisy said “[i]t makes me sad because I’ve never seen such—such beautiful shirts before.” While keeping the idea that the shirts represent wealth, Daisy is basically saying she is so upset that she did not see how wealthy Gatsby was before she married Tom. This idea could also lead to the reader believing that Gatsby is even more desperate and just wants to use Nick, as he will do a lot just to try to impress Daisy.
Jordan C 5
2/13/2014 11:38:29 am
This seemed to be the most common way to look at this whole situation of clothes between Gatsby and Daisy. However, I kind of see it as a different type of emotion that Daisy is trying to express all together. Notice the hyphen that shows hesitation in Daisy's statement about the clothes. The way I see this quote is that Daisy has some deeper emotion in her mind, not just happiness about Gatsby's wealth and regret that she didn't realize it sooner, but something more. Knowing Daisy and Gatsby's past, they obviously have a strong amount of feeling for one another. When Gatsby is throwing his clothes on the bed and she buries her face into them crying, it seems to me like she may just be wanting Gatsby to stop trying to impress her with money and try something with emotion, so before the hyphen, she may be thinking out of aggravation, but in order to avoid a confrontation, she cuts herself short and simply lets Gatsby hear what he wants to hear.
Brenda N. 4
2/12/2014 01:22:11 pm
A symbol I found that kept reoccurring throughout the chapter, is the constant reminder of time. It seems that Fitzgerald is expressing how much Gatsby lusts for the past and a change of time. How he wants his past with Daisy to change and to be able to have Daisy with him now. It's showed that he wants time to go back to that happy place when, “[Gatsby’s] head leaned back so far that it rested against the…clock…he turned and caught it with trembling fingers and set it back in place” (Fitzgerald 86).
Bri D.
2/12/2014 01:23:16 pm
The most important symbol in chapter five was the clock. In one of the scenes they describe Gatsby to have “turned and caught it with trembling fingers and set it back to place” (69). I think that this relates to Gatsby’s situation with Daisy and when she married another man. I think it can directly relate to Gatsby wanting to change the past and change who Daisy marries. But since he cant stop time, and he saves this clock, it could represent him saving their time together and possibly gaining more time with her in the future.
Jesse S.
2/13/2014 01:21:46 pm
I don't necessarily believe that Gatsby wants to change the past, as the past is the place where he contains his fodest memories with Daisy. Instead he wants to mend his future relationship with Daisy. "turned an caught it with trembling fngers and set it back to place." What I recieved from this quote is that as much as he would have liked to have let the clock fall and break (the clock representing Daisy's current relationship with Tom). He would feel that could possibly send her into the opposite direction, in which he is not involved. His nervous and risky decision to catch the clock as a result of his trembling fingers, signifies that he doesn't want to resort to drastic and destructive measures to win over Daisy. Instead he would pursue a much more refined path (reseting the clock back in place) puts him back in his current relationship with Daisy but can possibly bring back the memories that had once brought Daisy and Gatsby together.
Stefan C. Per. 5
2/12/2014 01:23:54 pm
I believe the shirts scene was a very important symbol that was seen in this chapter. When Gatsby begins to take his shirts out of his cabinet and Daisy sees them she begins to cry because it is at this point in the novel that she realizes that marrying Tom was a mistake. She married Tom because of his wealth and the way he was looked at in society, and she knew that with Tom she was going to live a very wealthy life. When Gatsby begins to throw these fine, silk, english made shirts out of the age realizes that she could have had that same life with someone that she actually loved and had feelings for.
Ryan D 5
2/13/2014 11:54:45 am
I agree with what you are saying. The shirts are a symbol of what could have been with Daisy and Gatsby. They could also show how far Gatsby is willing to go to get Dasiy back. He seemed to bury her in the expensive shirts and the amount of love he was showing could of shocked her because of the lack of love Tom gives her.
Chris B 5
2/13/2014 11:59:25 am
This particular scene blew my mind when I read it because when I realized the real reason for daisy crying over the shirt I felt the same pain daisy did Fitzgerald describes a situation everyone has been in at some point....regret. Her regret is total and complete because she knows now she could have been rich and happy not just rich like he mother wanted and I believe that is what makes this scene so deep.
Richard Webb Period 5
2/22/2014 11:20:18 am
Chris you actually make a very good point. At first i thought that Daisy crying just showed how artificial her personality is. However, she really does not have much happiness in her life. Therefore, her tears really do represent her regret of marrying Tom as she is now realizing what she could have had with Gatsby.
Mary K
2/12/2014 01:33:30 pm
I chose the quote on page 88, when Gatsby saw Daisy after years, and quotes " “was pouring rain” (Fitzgereld 88). This basically signifies what he felt for Daisy. He was feeling nervous and what seems like he had a heavy heart. Another symbol would be “the sun shone again” (93). It basically meant, to me anyway, Daisy's and Gatsby's love has started anew. It wa a new beginning.
Kevin H P4
2/13/2014 01:28:26 pm
While I think that it is very unlikely that this is what Fitzgerald intended the rain to represent, I think that the rain represents Nick's discomfort with being around Daisy and Gatsby as they are reestablishing their relationship. Originally, while Gatsby was uncomfortably running around Nick's house, which would make Nick a bit uncomfortable, the rain began to fall. Then, after Nick got away from the situation for a little while, by going outside, the rain then stopped because his discomfort had gone away as Gatsby and Daisy had gotten reintroduced with each other. Then later on, when Gatsby is trying to show off all of his money when he takes them to "see the grounds and the swimming-pool, and the hydroplane..."(92), the rain starts again because Nick might be uncomfortable with Gatsby trying to show off to his cousin. and then finally, when the rain is mentioned for the last time, it is when Nick is leaving Gatsby's house Gatsby and Daisy when they "had forgotten me, but Daisy glanced up and held out her hand; Gatsby didn't know me now at all."(95). I'm pretty sure that most people would be uncomfortable in a dimly lit room while a couple is sitting in the corner being romantic and getting serenaded by a live pianist.
Jimmy M P2
2/12/2014 01:38:03 pm
There are several different symbols in the first 5 chapters that we have read. The first one is the green light. It represents Gatsby’s hopes and dreams for the future. Gatsby wants to be with his love, Daisy. The light represents her. Another symbol was the weather when Daisy and Gatsby saw each other again for the first time in years. It was "pouring rain" (Fitzgerald 88). The rain represents cleanliness of the mind. Every emotion leading up to the point they saw each other was just washed away. The only thing that mattered to them was that moment. When Daisy arrived, things were very weird and awkward between the two of them.
Kathryn P P2
2/13/2014 01:37:37 pm
Jimmy, I didn't think about the rain representing cleanliness, but this is a very good symbol. The rain, I too believe, represents a sense of cleanliness or new start to something, even life. I also liked how you described it to wash away the past feelings and that also the sunshine that followed meant happiness in that moment.
Lyssa L p4
2/12/2014 01:40:07 pm
The symbol of the green light in chapter 5 is probably the most prominent symbol and also a very strong one. After meeting Daisy and giving her a tour of his mansion, he reveals if it wasn't for the mist we could see your home across the bay... You always have a green light that burns all night at the end of your dock" (Fitzgerald 98). The green light in the chapter represents Gatsby's unknown love for Daisy since the light is currently hidden. For the book as a whole, I think the green light represents the regret that Daisy has shown by when she breaks down crying while looking through Gatsby's vast collection of luxurious English shirts. Green is also a color of greed or the color of money even and it is specially used to describe the light because it was to exploit how Daisy regrets not marrying Gatsby, probably because she realized that he could have given her the life Tom did, but she loved Gatsby, it's just he didn't have money at he the time of marriage, and greed took over and won. Thus, the importance of the green light being on her porch.
Amanna V. (4)
2/12/2014 01:45:23 pm
A subtle symbol that I found interesting in the chapter would be the grass. Personally, I found that the grass represented Gatsby's persistence for perfection. Since the war, he has been working towards one goal. That goal is to finally be rich and powerful enough for him to be acceptable for Daisy. Because he holds such high regards towards Daisy, everything surrounding her has to be perfect and majestic as well. In the book it said, "'I want to get the grass cut,' he said. We both looked at the grass- there was a sharp line where my ragged lawn ended..." (Fitzgerald 82). Even something menial, such as grass, should be perfect to fit Daisy's standards. Doubting Nick, Gatsby even goes as far as sending someone to Nick's property to cut the grass for him. He goes through all this work, because I believe that he doesn't want something as little as a lawn to prevent him the chance of meeting and establishing a relationship with Daisy.
Brandon K 4
2/12/2014 01:55:27 pm
One of the ideas that we were supposed to be looking for in the novel is the symbol of the clock. I may have missed it but i didn't notice the use of clocks till chapter 5. Ok so the way i have viewed the use of clocks is that it represents Gatsby's lifestyle and focuses of his life. The reason why I think this is the case is because Gatsby has been in the same cycle for a couple years just trying to get in contact with Daisy through his wealth and power. Everything he did is primarily to try to regain the contact and love with Daisy. The first case of the clock that in noticed is "Luckily the clock took this moment to tilt dangerously at the pressure of his head, where upon he turned and caught it with trembling fingers and set it back in place...'It's an old clock'" (Fitzgerald 86-87). These scene occurs when Gatsby is meeting Daisy for the first time since before the war. The clock shows how Gatsby is starting to come apart at the seem and become sketchy because now everything that he has been basing his life upon is changing right in front of him at that moment. This is also reinforced by Nick making the old clock comment about how Gatsby has been living the same way for a long time with the same intention. The next use of the clock that I noticed is later in chapter 5 "Now, in the reaction,he was running down like an over wound clock."(Fitzgerald 92) This occurs when he is talking to Daisy and showing her around the house. This is what hes been waiting a long time for and has focused so much to get to this moment. So he really starts to fall apart as well as his ideals which are represented by the use of clocks in the novel..
Costa D. (period 4)
2/12/2014 01:58:05 pm
An important symbol that is used in this chapter is the darkness outside in the beginning and the fact that Gatsby's house was lit. The darkness represents Gatsby's uncertainty on meeting Daisy because he hasn't spoken to her in a while. The lights indicate Gatsby's idea on inviting her for tea. These symbols mainly act to foreshadow events to come such as Gatsby's reactions when he sees Daisy. This idea also goes back to the theme of Gatsby being a romantic and having true and unrelenting love for Daisy.
Jordan C 5
2/13/2014 10:42:57 am
An important symbol in chapter 5 was really briefly discussed. The famous green light in the darkness was revealed to be the dock light at the end of the Buchanan's house. What makes this important is how it is described by Gatsby in chapter 5: "If it wasn't for you mist we could see your home across the bay... You always have a green light that burns all night at the end of your dock" (92). Later it goes on to describe how the dock light was once significant as a star that floated so far away, meaning Daisy being so far from Gatsby. However, now that she is with him, or at least physically with him, the dock light is once more just a light. The thing is, the part of the quote that mentioned a mist being in the way of the house is what sticks out more now. Like in T.S. Elliot's poem, "Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock," this mist represents the lack of clarity that Gatsby has both mentally and visually of Daisy. It resonates with the rest of the novel because at certain key points, they're together, but they don't seem to agree on both being there together emotionally. In other words, the light is now just a light, but the mist still remains because there is so much confusion of emotions to sort through between Gatsby and Daisy.
Morganne J p.5
2/13/2014 10:48:45 am
In this chapter, Gatsby mentions his pool for one of the first times in the novel. He casually invites Nick to join for a swim in it; he hasn’t, “made use of it all summer” (Fitzgerald 82). When I think of the pool in a symbolic perspective, the first thing that I think of is water and how it is used religiously for purifying purposes or baptizing. In someone’s life, they are usually baptized once and then they are considered clean for the rest of their life. This symbolizes the fact that Gatsby has yet to use his pool in the book because he is saving it for a single important moment. Every religion is different, but each has a vast belief to when it is appropriate for one to be baptized. I feel that Gatsby is not ready yet at this point in the book. More needs to occur within the story in order for Gatsby to finally make use of his pool.
Bakari C. 2
2/13/2014 11:47:53 am
A very nice symbol that is brought up within the chapter is the green light at Daisy's which Gatsby can see across the lake. Fitzgerald writes, "if it wasn't for the mist we could see your home across the bay... You always have a green light that burns all night at the end of your dock." This quote shows a very literal meaning in the fact that often times he is looking for the light to remind him of Daisy and comfort him to know that she is there, and sometimes it is hidden by fog. But it also acts as a symbol of their relationship. The light being there is showing that there could potentially be a love between the two but it is being clouded. There are several factors that are clouding the relationship from happening. Some of those things would be: Tom, the East and West Eggs and what they would think, Daisy's child, and many more.
Jesse S. P.4
2/13/2014 01:11:15 pm
The clock in chapter 5 signifies how Gatsby is unable to stop time from continuing. Emphasizing that his past relationship with Daisy is unretrievable. Fitzgerald allowe Gatsby to catch the clock for a purpose. Not only does the clock represent his relationship with Daisy, it also signifies how as time passed, Daisy is already in a committed relationship being married and having a child. That in order for Gatsby to be able to retrieve that past relationship, he will have to break the relationship that Daisy currently has with Tom. Since Gatsby is reluctant to let the clock break, its possible that Gatsby at the moment may not be ready to make his move on Daisy.
Rose A Period 4
2/17/2014 01:05:52 pm
I agree with you completely Jesse. I also noticed this symbol and agree that by Gatsby catching the clock did happen for a reason. As Gatsby caught the clock he "couldn't muster up a single commonplace out of the thousand in [his] head." (Fitzgerald 87). This signifies how time has stood still and cannot no longer, sort of a symbol for Gatsby to realize Daisy is no longer worth his time. I agree with your idea that Gatsby would have to break Daisy's relationship with Tom, but I believe this is a sign of him letting go.
Richard Webb Period 5
2/22/2014 11:11:22 am
Out of the numerous symbols that are within chapter 5, I found Gatsby's clothes to be very significant. "He took out a pile of shirts and began throwing them one by one, before us, shirts of sheer linen and thick silk and fine flannel..." (Fitzgerald 92). Gatsby's English shirts represent his wealth and class. However, the shirts also tie into Daisy's character. She began to weep at the shirt's beauty. This is a prime example that shows how artificial Daisy's personality really is. Just the sight of materialistic objects (the lavish shirts) made her very emotional.
Mahia P - Per. 1
2/24/2014 09:48:34 am
One thing that is repeatedly mentioned in this chapter is the pouring rain. In this chapter, Nick schedules the meeting between Daisy and Gatsby, and Nick says that "The day agreed upon was pouring rain" (Fitzgerald 83). I think that the rain represents - once again - an element of mystery and suspense. It also represents cloudiness and the feelings of uneasiness that Gatsby has in this scene. Rain also creates a sense of gloominess, and this shows the reader what the characters are feeling at this time in the story.
Renick W. 1
2/24/2014 11:34:40 am
The symbol i chose is the green light, which os mentioned again. As Daisy, Nick, and Gatsby are at his house Gatsby states, "If it wasn't for you mist we could see your home across the bay... You always have a green light that burns all night at the end of your dock" (Fitzgerald 92). Once again this light is Gatsby's hope to once again have a relationship with Daisy. He says that the light is always burning, meaning that his dream for Daisy will never die. This relates to the text as a whole because it shows how Gatsby is living in the past and making all his decisions for one thing: Daisy.
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